Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
How much consensus IS there for tagging national_park on "large, (important?) state parks" which roughly (or not) meet the national_park definition in our wiki? We have two in New York, quite a few in California, some in other states. Do we wish to keep these as they are? Do we rough out "rul

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 2:43 PM OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > 1) As states are as sovereign as the federal government (for purposes of > saying "what a park is around here"), the tag boundary=national_park has > rather widely been applied to state parks and state-park like lands. (I know > Ke

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Oops, I meant landuse=recreation_ground. (Not landuse=recreation_area). My apologies. SteveA ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
James Umbanhowar wrote: > Just to throw another curveball in here, there is also > leisure=nature_reserve which is frequently (occasionally?) used for the > city/county parks that are less structured and used for hiking and > nature appreciation. Thanks, James. Reiterating, when I say "Existing

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 18:35 Greg Troxel wrote: > I think the entire "national_park" tag is unfortunate, as it wraps up a > lot of concepts that vary by country, and makes people understand things > when they don't. In the US, it should mean "preserve the land while > allowing access and enjoymen

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread James Umbanhowar
Just to throw another curveball in here, there is also leisure=nature_reserve which is frequently (occasionally?) used for the city/county parks that are less structured and used for hiking and nature appreciation. On Sun, 2019-04-28 at 08:48 -0500, Aaron Forsythe wrote: > On 4/26/2019 9:49 PM, OS

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Josh Lee wrote: > Where is the consensus or vote? The wiki page says "Status: de facto" > which implies that the wiki page should document *actual usage* and > not some sort of idealist, narrow viewpoint. Perhaps this is where I throw up my hands in exasperation. Wit

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread Josh Lee
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 12:10 PM OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > Does OSM tag these leisure=park? "We" (the people, the Departments of > Parks...) do, yet should we in OSM? This IS talk-us; a major reason I > brought this up here is that USA park tagging drifts from elsewhere as "more > genero

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
> Jmapb wrote: > ...if I saw a playground on a map > and then arrived there and found it was just an empty lot or an > undeveloped bit of land, I would find fault with that map. So if these > places (kids play here but it's unofficial) are to be mapped, I'd > suggest different tagging. I would fi

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-28 Thread Aaron Forsythe
On 4/26/2019 9:49 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: >> Other than that I can't think of any tags that would be applicable to >> these sorts of situations. We tend to tag the regulations themselves, >> not the extent to which they're adhered to. Certainly just calling it a >> park because kids play th