If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a person from
the data group as an editor,
asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he does not get back to me, why are
you telling me I can not use
google as a map source, since all the maps on OSM are old news. like in my
l
On 6/13/20 12:25 AM, stevea wrote:
It is absolutely fascinating (to me, anyway) to watch this conversation!
I thanked Russ Nelson on wiki for his comments at New York/Railroads. (And we
still have a ways to go there).
Yeah, for me the map is much more important than the wiki. Except for
Wikip
On 6/13/20 12:30 AM, Natfoot wrote:
And I don't trust the FRA database to be accurate.
No database is perfect. Not even OSM. Some databases can be useful.
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You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source.
Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM?
"since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area 7 months old."
FYI, world is larger than your local area.
Jun 13, 2020, 16:08 by talk-us@openstreetmap.org:
> If you people want me to prove m
this was a tool on the map that measured distance.
>Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:29 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
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>You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source.
>
>Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM?
>
>"since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area 7
Yeah, be careful with Google Maps. It's owned and created by a company and
if you copy from it and they can prove it, they could sue the OSM
Foundation into oblivion. They used to even have their OWN satellites to
obtain imagery. That's serious money.
Typically, with local edits, I put "Local k
Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by eric.lad...@gmail.com:
> Yeah, be careful with Google Maps. It's owned and created by a company and
> if you copy from it and they can prove it, they could sue the OSM Foundation
> into oblivion. They used to even have their OWN satellites to obtain
> imagery. That'
i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map.
>Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via talk
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>Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by eric.lad...@gmail.com:
>>Yeah, be careful with Google Maps. It's owned and created by a company and
>>if you copy from it and t
If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler?
Why using ruler on Google Maps would be even necessary?
Jun 13, 2020, 17:31 by t...@openstreetmap.org:
> i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map.
>
>
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>> Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Koni
because i was asked to change my edit based on my own ruler measurement,
but it was just a ruler on google maps.
>Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:42 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
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>If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler?
>
>Why using ruler on Go
According to the Google Maps Terms of service, you cannot use it in any way
to make another map. [0] I would think that would include using its ruler
if the purpose of using the ruler is to edit OSM.
[0] 2.d of https://www.google.com/help/terms_maps/
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM 80hnhtv4agou-
since the complainer removed the source (google map) do i remove the # as well ?
>Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:09 AM -05:00 from Mike Thompson
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>According to the Google Maps Terms of service, you cannot use it in any way to
>make another map. [0] I would think that would include using it
Nathan, thanks - I've been thinking over your email and use case since
coffee this morning, and looking for the right questions to pick your brain
too, so that we can get the documentation right in the NA tagging wiki, and
all of us on the same page. I also started working up a a NA-specific and
s
You should check the measurement directly from aerial imagery in iD or
JOSM, or by visiting the location in person and measuring or estimating.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:24 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us <
talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> since the complainer removed the source (google map) do
I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google .
it was a ruler.
>Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:40 AM -05:00 from Lester Caine :
>
>On 13/06/2020 15:08, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:
>> why are you telling me I can not use google as a map source
>
>First reason is that
Chuck,
I think you make some good points in your email. I would discourage the
hang ups on the diffring railroad terminology as it is different by
railroad and location. Coming to a decision on how we are going to tag is
more important. I agree that line segments are useful and interested to
hear
If I'm not mistaken, the examples you've given are instances of
railway:track_ref=*, not ref=*.
Throwing my two cents in here—that coincides with the way I personally use
railway:track_ref=*. My understanding is that this uniquely identifies
tracks within a line, station or yard, and is not synony
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us <
talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google
.
>
> it was a ruler.
This isn't really about OSM, it is about the Google Maps Terms of Service,
which by using Google Maps,
OK !
>Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:56 PM -05:00 from Mike Thompson
>:
>
>
>On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us <
>talk-us@openstreetmap.org > wrote:
>>
>> I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google .
>>
>> it was a ruler.
>This isn't
On 6/13/20 09:08, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote:
> If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a
> person from the data group as an editor,
>
> asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he does not get back to
> me, why are you telling me I can not use
>
> google as a map
Russ Nelson writes:
> Yeah, for me the map is much more important than the wiki. Except for
> Wikipedia's stupid citation rules, all that information > belongs in
> Wikipedia. Although if it drives more mappers, that's fine. Maybe we should
> populate the wiki with the
> old_railroad_operator in
I guess I have been confused all this time.
Nathan P
email: natf...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:49 PM Clay Smalley wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken, the examples you've given are instances of
> railway:track_ref=*, not ref=*.
>
> Throwing my two cents in here—that coincides with the way I
OK !
>Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:25 PM -05:00 from Shawn K. Quinn
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>
>On 6/13/20 09:08, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote:
>> If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a
>> person from the data group as an editor,
>>
>> asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he doe
Sorry to be a little slow today, the weather was gorgeous here today
(probably the prettiest day we've had all spring so far!) and I got cabin
fever at lunch. Now I'm in nap mode, and trying to get caught up on all the
excellent discussion that happened when I was soaking up the sun this
afternoon.
I'm still seeing it and using it for my mapping chores in Alaska.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:27 AM Tod Fitch wrote:
> Sometime pretty recently the USGS topographic map layer disappeared from
> JOSM and I don’t even see it in the available layers to add back in. I
> don’t use it a lot, but when I
I use it quite often. It is good for names of water bodies. However, I
just checked now, and it doesn't seem to be listed on the imagery menu any
more.
Mike
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:37 PM Dave Swarthout
wrote:
> I'm still seeing it and using it for my mapping chores in Alaska.
>
> On Sun, Ju
Dave,
Can you provide the URL so those of us that no longer have access can
manually add it back in?
Thanks,
Mike
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:40 PM Mike Thompson wrote:
> I use it quite often. It is good for names of water bodies. However, I
> just checked now, and it doesn't seem to be listed
Sometime pretty recently the USGS topographic map layer disappeared from JOSM
and I don’t even see it in the available layers to add back in. I don’t use it
a lot, but when I want to verify the direction of flow of a stream, etc. it
comes in very useful.
Is it just my configuration having a pro
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