[Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-12 Thread dies38061
(this is a follow-up post to my original at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-January/010086.html and the responses thereto) Thanks for the input on this topic earlier this month. I'm in agreement with those who feel that the information is too volatile and potentially out

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-12 Thread Richard Welty
this should also go to the tagging list. On 1/12/13 9:08 AM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: (this is a follow-up post to my original at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-January/010086.html and the responses thereto) Thanks for the input on this topic earlier this month.

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-03 Thread Michael Patrick
To play Psychostik's advocate, translating girl directions. OK, now stay right while you're turning left, because you're going to hang a right after seriously the biggest tree you've ever seen, go five lampposts down, turn left on McCallaugh...or was it McDowell? McSomething. Then you'll

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread dies38061
-Original Message- From: Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 1, 2013 9:31 PM To: dies38...@mypacks.net Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM Off list. I see you've put source and source:date tags on many objects. source on objects has been deprecated for years. I

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Serge Wroclawski
, but not surprising. I've fixed the documentation and added a section about the old use. - Serge -Original Message- From: Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 1, 2013 9:31 PM To: dies38...@mypacks.net Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM Off list. I see

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/13 7:32 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I am interested in what tagging you would suggest to indicate that a stretch of road has been adopted as part of an Adopt-a-Highway program. unrelated to the source amenity tagging discussion... i think that maybe adapt-a-highway is probably an

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread nicholas ingalls
it seems to me to be a likely maintenance problem in the long run. I know in Canada it certainly is! There are two adopt-a-highway signs where I live and both of the clubs that supposedly 'maintain' that part of the highway stopped participating in the program 7 years ago. The signs have

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Jeff Meyer
and added a section about the old use. - Serge -Original Message- From: Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 1, 2013 9:31 PM To: dies38...@mypacks.net Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM Off list. I see you've put source and source:date tags

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/2/13 1:20 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: Is there a difference between deprecated and now used less frequently? Deprecated sounds pretty official, especially in our unofficious (word?) OSM society. in my experience, deprecated is a pretty official declaration that something shouldn't be

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Mike N
On 1/2/2013 2:16 PM, Richard Welty wrote: in my experience, deprecated is a pretty official declaration that something shouldn't be done/used anymore. java developers like me are quite accustomed to seeing APIs we use suddenly coming up deprecated, leading us to scramble to the docs to see what

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Jeff Meyer
Exactly. Where are these official declarations posted inside OSM? For example, Serge indicated source=* has been deprecated. Where is this (should this be) recorded? On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: deprecated is a pretty official declaration that

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/2/13 2:45 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: Exactly. Where are these official declarations posted inside OSM? For example, Serge indicated source=* has been deprecated. Where is this (should this be) recorded? normally you'd indicate deprecation on the page for the tag itself. i'm not sure we have

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Toby Murray
The only real tag that is well and truly deprecated is created_by. Both JOSM and Potlatch automatically and silently delete this tag from any object you modify if it is present. So it is actually impossible to create a new object with a created_by tag on it in the two most popular editors. Toby

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: Is there a difference between deprecated and now used less frequently? I've tried to use generally deprecated for Not used much and should not be used much. Where I've failed to do that, I apologize. Remember that virtually

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/2/13 10:49 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 1/1/13 7:32 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I am interested in what tagging you would suggest to indicate that a stretch of road has been adopted as part of an Adopt-a-Highway program. unrelated to the source amenity tagging discussion... i

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Paul Johnson
To play Psychostik's advocate, translating girl directions. OK, now stay right while you're turning left, because you're going to hang a right after seriously the biggest tree you've ever seen, go five lampposts down, turn left on McCallaugh...or was it McDowell? McSomething. Then you'll keep

[Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-01 Thread dies38061
I am interested in what tagging you would suggest to indicate that a stretch of road has been adopted as part of an Adopt-a-Highway program. Quoting from the Wikipedia article: The Adopt-a-Highway program, also known as Sponsor-a-Highway (but see distinction below), is a promotional campaign

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-01 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I am interested in what tagging you would suggest to indicate that a stretch of road has been adopted as part of an Adopt-a-Highway program. My thinking right now would be to include at the way level these additional tags:

[Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-01 Thread dies38061
Message- From: Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 1, 2013 7:54 PM To: dies38...@mypacks.net Cc: osm talk us talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I am interested in what tagging

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-01 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:33 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: Thanks for your comments, Serge. I'm confused by your reference to changeset metadata as that is not easily accessible to future editors of the same ways. Changeset tags are accessible to editors just as easily accessible as

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-01 Thread Toby Murray
. --ceyockey -Original Message- From: Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 1, 2013 7:54 PM To: dies38...@mypacks.net Cc: osm talk us talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net