Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2015-02-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Feb 5, 2015 5:30 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 2/4/2015 11:48 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Generally, it is not feasible to use OSM as a dataset backing an official GTFS feed. This is because the probability of the GTFS dataset being uploaded to Google and thereby

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2015-02-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Generally, it is not feasible to use OSM as a dataset backing an official GTFS feed. This is because the probability of the GTFS dataset being uploaded to Google and thereby violating the license if the street centerlines or

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2015-02-03 Thread Mike N
On 2/3/2015 3:31 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Is the new style backwards compatible with the old style? The new Public Transport style is backward compatible and offers a more uniform tagging style with some additional capabilities (in my opinion). Especially in regards to potentially having

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2015-02-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Is the new style backwards compatible with the old style? Especially in regards to potentially having OSM as being the dataset for the official GTFS feed in an area where the official data presently sucks, it'd be a travesty if the new style makes going to and from GTFS *more* difficult for

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-12-07 Thread Saikrishna Arcot
Part of the problem between the tagging schemes and the rendering is that it's a chicken-and-egg problem; a new tagging scheme is created, but rendering support isn't there yet (partly because it's a somewhat complex structure), so people might not use that scheme. However, if there were many

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-12-07 Thread stevea
Saikrishna Arcot wrote: Part of the problem between the tagging schemes and the rendering is that it's a chicken-and-egg problem; a new tagging scheme is created, but rendering support isn't there yet (partly because it's a somewhat complex structure), so people might not use that scheme.

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-11-29 Thread stevea
it is not clear if the new way is actually better, at least the current data stats show that mappers still prefer the old method, at least for bus stops, as it is simpler (you need just one tag highway=bus_stop instead of two: public_transport=platform and bus=yes, for the same information

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-11-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-27 21:08 GMT+01:00 Saikrishna Arcot saiarcot...@gmail.com: Not sure if this is the right list or the tagging list is better, but I see some bus and subway routes in the Atlanta area that use the older version of tagging public transport routes. Should these be updated to use the newer

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-11-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Throwing my hat into this one, I'm thinking the new style also reuses some of the old style tags and conventions. That said, since I'm not trying to automate a driverless bus fleet, I tend to only use the old style method. Coincidentally, this generally works out well for most situations and is

[Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-11-27 Thread Saikrishna Arcot
Hi all, Not sure if this is the right list or the tagging list is better, but I see some bus and subway routes in the Atlanta area that use the older version of tagging public transport routes. Should these be updated to use the newer version of tagging? -- Saikrishna Arcot signature.asc

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-11-27 Thread Bill R. WASHBURN
I was one of the people that did a lot of work on those. Go for it. Let me know if you need help. Bill On Nov 27, 2014 3:09 PM, Saikrishna Arcot saiarcot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Not sure if this is the right list or the tagging list is better, but I see some bus and subway routes in the

Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport

2014-11-27 Thread Mike N
On 11/27/2014 3:08 PM, Saikrishna Arcot wrote: Not sure if this is the right list or the tagging list is better, but I see some bus and subway routes in the Atlanta area that use the older version of tagging public transport routes. Should these be updated to use the newer version of tagging?