Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

The fact of the matter is that we don't have any numbers to back any of these claims up. Perhaps out ontology puts people off - perhaps not. Perhaps the launch of iD has led to more new sign-ups becoming recurring mappers - perhaps not. Maybe the increased visibility of OSM is a factor? Maybe the e

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:17 PM, wrote: > > I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think any > normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its hard > to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive like > myself is that *

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

On Mar 17, 2014 9:02 PM, "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > a. The pot shops need to be standardized, one way or another. I can see > different tagging for recreational versus medical but either way, I'd > like to see us standardize on something for each and be done with it. I definitely agree. My gener

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

org] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:04 PM To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users On Mar 17, 2014 9:02 PM, "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > a. The pot shops need to be standardized, one way or another. I can see > different

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014, at 01:17 PM, o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote: > > I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think > any normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its > hard to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessi

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

2014-03-18 1:32 GMT+01:00 Mike Dupont : > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:17 PM, wrote: > >> The tagging of things bears little resemblance to things in the real >> world: > > > I agree, first of all, i tried to explain to someone how to tag a cafe/bar > and he was confused and so was I. > amenity=ca

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

I made exactly this point a while back on the diversity-talk list. The consequence of this is that by self-limiting *who* the mappers are, we also limit the types of things that will ever appear on the map. It’s even evident in your statement "This map geek and his son?” — a point that well mad

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:17 PM, wrote: > The tagging of things bears little resemblance to things in the real world: I agree, first of all, i tried to explain to someone how to tag a cafe/bar and he was confused and so was I. why would americans want to learn british names for things? why is t

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, wrote: > > I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think > any > normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its > hard > to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive like > myself is t

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

JOSM also has a plugin that provides a UI for entering opening_hours. That being said, this UI is in JOSM, but new users are probably going to use iD since it's easy to use and is right there (quick availability). -- Saikrishna Arcot On Monday, March 17, 2014 01:20:12 PM Ian Dees wrote: Such

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

Hi Charles, Have you looked at iD's preset-based feature editing UI? It's very close to what you describe: - Machine readable ontology - Search-based UI - No detailed knowledge of tagging schemes necessary - Customized UI for

Re: [Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

Such a thing already mostly exists in the preset system. iD has a fairly extensive and growing set of presets that I encourage you to try (it follows the example you give). JOSM also has a preset system, but it's not nearly as obvious or as complete (at least for the mapping I do). You access it b

[Talk-us] Why we really don't get new users

I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think any normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its hard to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive like myself is that *the ontology sucks*. There, I said it, so you do