Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Jul 14, 2020, 13:17 by jm...@gmx.com: > On 7/14/2020 4:53 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us wrote: > >> >> Jul 14, 2020, 02:20 by >> jm...@gmx.com>> : >> >>> If there was reason to believe you needed explicit permission to >>> be on >>> that way, then access=private would be

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-14 Thread Jmapb
On 7/14/2020 4:53 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us wrote: Jul 14, 2020, 02:20 by jm...@gmx.com: On 7/13/2020 4:09 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: On 13/07/2020 15.16, Kevin Kenny wrote: The immediate curtilage of a house is presumed to be private; at least

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-14 Thread Jmapb
On 7/13/2020 3:22 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: Out of curiosity, I looked at the tagging of a neighborhood I know of which has privately owned roads (maintained by the homeowner’s association) but no gate blocking entry. There are signs indicating that the roads are “private” but that state road

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Jul 14, 2020, 02:20 by jm...@gmx.com: > On 7/13/2020 4:09 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > >> On 13/07/2020 15.16, Kevin Kenny wrote: >> >>> >>> The immediate curtilage of a house is presumed to be private; at least >>> in the US, one does not drive or walk directly up to someone's house >>>

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-13 Thread Jmapb
On 7/13/2020 4:09 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: On 13/07/2020 15.16, Kevin Kenny wrote: The immediate curtilage of a house is presumed to be private; at least in the US, one does not drive or walk directly up to someone's house without having business there. (Someone making a delivery, obviously,

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-13 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jul 13, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Jmapb wrote: > (Trying once again to change this thread subject!) > > I'm also in the "worry about it" camp. > > To me, it's sad to see a mapper go to all the trouble of fixing the routing > to the house https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263869602 >

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-13 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 13/07/2020 15.16, Kevin Kenny wrote: I'll confess to having perpetrated a fair number - at a time when I didn't know better. Likewise. That said... A few things, though: The immediate curtilage of a house is presumed to be private; at least in the US, one does not drive or walk directly

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-13 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 1:52 PM Jmapb wrote: > I'm also in the "worry about it" camp. > > To me, it's sad to see a mapper go to all the trouble of fixing the routing > to the house https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263869602 by drawing in the > driveway

[Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-13 Thread Jmapb
On 7/13/2020 12:59 PM, Alex Hennings wrote: The /sole purpose/ of routing is to get the user to their destination without breaking any laws. These are also /specifically my/ /goals /when I'm using a router. Frequently (in my rural area) getting to my destination requires using a privately owned

[Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-12 Thread Jmapb
On 7/12/2020 6:03 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:28 AM Jmapb mailto:jm...@gmx.com>> wrote: > The access -- somewhat common to find a pubic road imported with access=private, so if I suspect this I'll leave the > tiger:reviewed=no tag until access can be confirmed, and add a