So many conversations at once; this list-digest medium proves limiting at times, even often.
Helpful old-fashioned aids here might be sketch boards where small-group (two, three people?) sub-projects can spin out and a main thread group where someone explains what s/he sees going on and how we might all get on the same page, making (actually or the equivalent of) a two- or three-page (at most?) wiki / OSM structure with two or three graphics of stacks of things, where this stack differs from that stack, where technical boundaries make divergences among real-world data consumers and a shortest path to "let's help each other out to learn how to make this very difficult bubble gum chewable by everybody around here who needs to." Yes, that's a rather tall order yet we can get there. Otherwise I might conclude we have some communication difficulties we'll need to solve sooner. We have pieces of this scattered among us in stovepipes. That's all, it isn't terrible, it is solvable. OSM stacks and data consumers (especially over time, years, as projects evolve, needs change, specification revise, tagging syntax meets renderer and "changing taste among data consumers is both well anticipated and poorly anticipated." These are highly complex. the system is a global mapping project among millions of us for billions of us, it is largely volunteer and partly "on a shoestring and even amongst ourselves we don't always share data and process in our stovepipes without a certain reticence . There is such a thing as intellectual property, trade secrets and what we are talking about doing, process improvement, pays truly huge dividends for our future. Let's be the best project we can be. We're a lot of very smart people. We can solve in weeks or months or a year what it might have taken us ten years (or 15) to get to "about here." I'd say we're doing fine, even as we do have some climbing ahead. OK, I'm fine with that. I'm being a bit rough and fast here, no doubt this will morph. Good. SteveA _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us