On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
At SOTM-US (State of the Map US) I spoke to Steven Johnson of the Census
Bureau on the issue of what data USPS actually has internally (as the
Census Bureau has some special licensed access to this data).
Yes, just
Steve,
On a more technical level ZIP Code Tabulation Areas (ZCTA5) are
statistical areas that are built using a predominant ZIP Code method.
The predominant ZIP Code for addresses within a Face (Faces combine into
Blocks) is assigned to the Face. Then a complex algorithm in-fills ZCTA5
Part of the reason that the USPS disavows a geographic boundary for ZIP Codes
is that they often keep residential delivery and commercial delivery and
high-rise delivery (having apts or suites) separate even when they are next
to each other on the street. This can be confusing if you
The USPS site referenced below has zipcode polygons and postal delivery
routes overlaid on an interactive map along with the number of
residences and business each route serves. Search for a zipcode or an
address to get started.
https://eddm.usps.com/eddm/customer/routeSearch.action
It looks
/manage-address-quality.htm
Hope this helps the discussion
Mark
From: Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Mark Newnham m...@newnhams.com wrote:
a. Both Google and Openstreetmap don't know anything about actual
addresses in the US. For reverse geocode purposes, they just guess based on
the approximate lat/long location.
b. An easy example to show you is
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Mark Newnham m...@newnhams.com wrote:
I work in the Uitilities/Billing industry and do a reasonable amount of
work in addressing quality (in order to get lower USPS rates with things
like the Intelligent Mail Barcoder and suchlike). I'd just like to throw a
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
The data that Bryce is talking to us about is post office locations.
And even this, as we've begun to dig into it, is of limited value to
the project, since we have to do the geocoding for this data.
It's still worth
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote:
Surveying postal addresses by opening mailboxes (illegal) or knocking on
doors doesn't seem feasible.
but the enhanced 911 addresses are basically the same as the postal
addresses and have the potential to become
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net]
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?
On 6/21/13 9:39 PM, Mike N wrote:
On 6/21/2013 1:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
Surveying postal addresses by opening mailboxes (illegal) or knocking
on doors doesn't seem feasible
On 6/22/13 9:04 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
...lots of good points...
Something else worth noting is this isn't an either-or situation for
geocoding. There is no reason you can't have both the street address and
postal address geocode to the same physical location. It is common to have
multiple
i think we probably need to specify this.
do we want geocoding to reference postal addresses, e.g.
123 Example Street
Anytown, IA, 12345
to resolve as a proper postal address both forwards and back, or
do we want it to resolve within some recognized boundary for
Anytown? these are different,
On 6/21/2013 1:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
there is no single solution to both of these problems. the current
handling of this in Nominatum is so far as i know focused on
admin boundaries, and will not handle the postal address case
properly.
so what do we mean by geocoding? what do we want it
On 6/21/13 9:39 PM, Mike N wrote:
On 6/21/2013 1:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
there is no single solution to both of these problems. the current
handling of this in Nominatum is so far as i know focused on
admin boundaries, and will not handle the postal address case
properly.
so what do we
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