Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Mike N

On 1/9/2018 8:47 PM, Jack Burke wrote:
Someone on the osmus Slack channel pointed out that this would affect 
routing for people who are in the town and want to go somewhere else in 
town, where that route wouldn't normally involve travelling on the major 
through roads.


  I haven't thought through this, but wouldn't that be the same as 
going down a road access=destination, then trying to find a new route 
back out?   Otherwise they are heading to a destination in town, so it's 
still access=destination.



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Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Jack Burke
Someone on the osmus Slack channel pointed out that this would affect routing 
for people who are in the town and want to go somewhere else in town, where 
that route wouldn't normally involve travelling on the major through roads. 

-jack 


On January 9, 2018 4:31:22 PM EST, Paul Norman  wrote:
>On 1/8/2018 10:53 AM, Jack Burke wrote:
>> I'll leave it to others to decide what, if anything, we should do 
>> about this.
>>
>>
>http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/05/leonia-streets-off-navigational-apps/
>
>If they actually go through with it, access=destination on the 
>applicable streets, or motor_vehicle=destination if it's motor vehicles
>
>only.
>
>I think what they're doing is a bad idea and unlikely to achieve their 
>stated goals, but that's a problem of the city, not us. We just need to
>
>map what they do accurately.
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Paul Norman

On 1/8/2018 10:53 AM, Jack Burke wrote:
I'll leave it to others to decide what, if anything, we should do 
about this.


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/05/leonia-streets-off-navigational-apps/


If they actually go through with it, access=destination on the 
applicable streets, or motor_vehicle=destination if it's motor vehicles 
only.


I think what they're doing is a bad idea and unlikely to achieve their 
stated goals, but that's a problem of the city, not us. We just need to 
map what they do accurately.


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Re: [Talk-us] New to lists and would like to suggest some imports

2018-01-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 09.01.2018 01:54, Russell Meier wrote:
> I am new to the idea of discussing additions to OSM and like to do my
> best to follow best practices in suggesting an import. I am not sure
> were to start.

First of all, be aware that data imports are not the normal way in which
data is added to OpenStreetMap. They are an exception. Opinions are
divided about whether they are good or bad and I won't go into that now,
but largely OpenStreetMap is a project of citizen cartographers (making
the map themselves) and not an IT project that focuses on the
assimilation of data sets created by others.

Even where data is imported to "kick-start" the map, the imported data
is never the last word; it will be modified, updated, improved by
volunteers through manual work later.

It is therefore a very good idea to earn your stripes by doing some
old-fashioned manual mapping yourself before embarking on a grand import
project; that way you'll get a better idea of working with the data as a
mapper, of what makes sense and what doesn't. Of just how precise you'd
like a building footprint to be when you edit it by hand later, and so on.

Bye
Frederik

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