Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 8:34 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > 27 Aug 2020, 14:37 by ian.d...@gmail.com: > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 03:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < > talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > > Aug 27, 2020, 09:52 by frede...@remote.org: > > Hi, > > On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: > > They appear to be pulling straight from Google > > > Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from > Google). > > AFAIK it is not against OSM license but it is break terms of service set > by Google. > > > Since Google doesn't have a way to programmatically get this data about > places, it's more likely that Google and Mapcarta used the same data source > that list an incorrect phone number. > > At least some time ago Google Places > API existed. Is it shut down now? > > https://developers.google.com/places/web-service/overview > describes it as an existing > Yes, you can perform individual searches by address and/or place name, but it gets expensive quickly to make thousands of these calls so it's more likely that they're sharing a data source. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
27 Aug 2020, 14:37 by ian.d...@gmail.com: > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 03:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us <> > talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> Aug 27, 2020, 09:52 by >> frede...@remote.org>> : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: >>> They appear to be pulling straight from Google >>> >>> Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from >>> Google). >>> >> AFAIK it is not against OSM license but it is break terms of service set by >> Google. >> >> > > Since Google doesn't have a way to programmatically get this data about > places, it's more likely that Google and Mapcarta used the same data source > that list an incorrect phone number. > At least some time ago Google Places API existed. Is it shut down now? https://developers.google.com/places/web-service/overview describes it as an existing ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 03:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Aug 27, 2020, 09:52 by frede...@remote.org: > > Hi, > > On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: > > They appear to be pulling straight from Google > > > Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from > Google). > > AFAIK it is not against OSM license but it is break terms of service set > by Google. > Since Google doesn't have a way to programmatically get this data about places, it's more likely that Google and Mapcarta used the same data source that list an incorrect phone number. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
Aug 27, 2020, 09:52 by frede...@remote.org: > Hi, > > On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: > >> They appear to be pulling straight from Google >> > > Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from > Google). > AFAIK it is not against OSM license but it is break terms of service set by Google. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
Hi, On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: > They appear to be pulling straight from Google Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from Google). I'll relay that to them and suggest they discuss with Google. I'll also shoot Mapcarta a message, thanks Ian for pointing me to the contact, don't know why I missed that. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
They appear to be pulling straight from Google, which is probably driving a whole lot more traffic to that telephone number than MapCarta: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eagles+Campground/@41.2627649,-111.6961183,17.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8753a519e0bdd163:0x85fa260f95cdae2a!8m2!3d41.2637729!4d-111.6944602?hl=en On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone have contacts with Mapcarta? > > https://mapcarta.com/Eagles_Campground_2422656 > > lists a camp ground that is not on OSM, and has never been, together > with a phone number that belongs to the USDA forest service and they're > not super stoked about would-be campers calling them to book. > > MapCarta claims to be using OpenStreetMap data (hence why the USDA > forest service contacted us). But clearly this campground comes from a > different source. (Which is just as well because Mapcarta doesn't have > proper attribution.) > > (The phone number in question was indeed recorded for a different camp > site in Utah, Monte Cristo Campground, and I've removed it from there. > Doesn't solve the Eagles Campground riddle though.) > > Mapcarta doesn't have any point of contact on the site and the whois > doesn't return anything useful either. > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
https://mapcarta.com/About_Mapcarta lists a contact email address: m...@imedia.io. On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 3:16 PM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone have contacts with Mapcarta? > > https://mapcarta.com/Eagles_Campground_2422656 > > lists a camp ground that is not on OSM, and has never been, together > with a phone number that belongs to the USDA forest service and they're > not super stoked about would-be campers calling them to book. > > MapCarta claims to be using OpenStreetMap data (hence why the USDA > forest service contacted us). But clearly this campground comes from a > different source. (Which is just as well because Mapcarta doesn't have > proper attribution.) > > (The phone number in question was indeed recorded for a different camp > site in Utah, Monte Cristo Campground, and I've removed it from there. > Doesn't solve the Eagles Campground riddle though.) > > Mapcarta doesn't have any point of contact on the site and the whois > doesn't return anything useful either. > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
Hi, does anyone have contacts with Mapcarta? https://mapcarta.com/Eagles_Campground_2422656 lists a camp ground that is not on OSM, and has never been, together with a phone number that belongs to the USDA forest service and they're not super stoked about would-be campers calling them to book. MapCarta claims to be using OpenStreetMap data (hence why the USDA forest service contacted us). But clearly this campground comes from a different source. (Which is just as well because Mapcarta doesn't have proper attribution.) (The phone number in question was indeed recorded for a different camp site in Utah, Monte Cristo Campground, and I've removed it from there. Doesn't solve the Eagles Campground riddle though.) Mapcarta doesn't have any point of contact on the site and the whois doesn't return anything useful either. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
