Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 09:37 Martijn van Exel wrote: > Leif -- > > I like the idea of making this more consistent. I am not convinced that > 'United States Postal Service' is an improvement over 'USPS'. (Should we > also rename 'UPS' to 'United Parcel Service'? 'FedEx' to 'Federal Express'?) >

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi Leif, > On Sep 26, 2018, at 7:16 AM, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Martijn, > I have very little opinion in which value of operator should be used, as long > as they are consistent. I think that basing the 'preferred' values on what > can be found printed on the post boxes,

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-26 Thread Leif Rasmussen
Mark, No, I was not planning on converting post boxes to the 'correct' operator value regularly, but that sounds like a good idea. Martijn, I have very little opinion in which value of operator should be used, as long as they are consistent. I think that basing the 'preferred' values on what can

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-26 Thread Aaron Forsythe
I’d be weary of using what’s on the box as the operator. There are multiple types of drop boxes provided by USPS (also UPS and FedEx have multiple types). These have different restrictions on the type of mail/packages that should go in those boxes. Putting in the wrong box can likely cause a

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-25 Thread Jmapb
On 9/25/2018 10:37 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: But there's also an opportunity to have the community have another look at the area surrounding the nodes. It's only ~4600 items: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Cg0 . By far the majority of post_boxes in the USA have no operator tag: 6871 by my

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-25 Thread Bryan Housel
I agree that adding `wikipedia` or `wikidata` to each location is wrong.. But using `operator:wikidata`/`operator:wikipedia` (and or `brand:wikidata`/`brand:wikipedia`) should be ok, even preferred.. This is the approach I’m taking with https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-25 Thread Clifford Snow
First off, I don't have an opinion on the naming of blue boxes. I'm am concerned about adding the wikipedia tags. One of the unintended consequences of adding the wikipedia tag to fast food chains is that nominatim puts those locations high in the search results. We removed most of the wikipedia

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
Are you planning to run this on a regular schedule (e.g. every month) ? m. On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 6:18 AM Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > The opinions expressed on the USPS/United States Postal Service tagging have > been very mixed, with seemingly equivalent

[Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-24 Thread Leif Rasmussen
Hi everyone, The opinions expressed on the USPS/United States Postal Service tagging have been very mixed, with seemingly equivalent numbers of people supporting both options. Based on the following facts, I have decided to convert the tag "operator"="USPS" on post boxes to "operator"="United

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-12 Thread Peter Dobratz
It would be good to standardize on operator tags for the 4 major carriers as you mentioned. The logos for DHL, FedEx, and UPS have those exact letters in them, so if people map what they see, then they will end up with those exact values. However, as mentioned, the USPS logo actually contains

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 7:12 PM Jmapb wrote: > On 9/6/2018 6:44 PM, Leif Rasmussen wrote: > > > First, for keeping the tagging style as consistent as possible, each > > post box will be given the tag "operator:wikidata"="Q668687". This > > way, even if the operator=* tags are changed later on,

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-07 Thread Jmapb
On 9/6/2018 6:44 PM, Leif Rasmussen wrote: First, for keeping the tagging style as consistent as possible, each post box will be given the tag "operator:wikidata"="Q668687".  This way, even if the operator=* tags are changed later on, all post boxes will still be consistent and easy to

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-06 Thread Bryan Housel
Can we please leave it as USPS? Other shippers UPS, FedEx, and DHL are also abbreviated. The “expand abbreviations” rule is really for street addresses, not everything in OSM. Taginfo can show you what values are currently stored in the `operator` tag:

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-06 Thread Leif Rasmussen
Hi Peter, I would like to do the operator value conversion this weekend, but would also like to make sure to listen to all the reasons for not expanding USPS. These include having the tagging style as consistent as possible, the long version being harder to type, a list of semicolon separated

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-09-06 Thread Peter Dobratz
Leif, What's the next step in your process on this? I prefer the "operator"="United States Postal Service". Not only does it match the sticker on the side of many blue mail boxes ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Post_office_drivethrough_lane.jpg ), it follows the general OSM guideline

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-08-28 Thread Jack Burke
Because they are labeled "United States Postal Service" with big stickers, that's how I've been tagging them. -jack -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology On August 28, 2018 4:02:40 PM EDT, Jmapb wrote: >On 8/28/2018 3:31 PM, Leif Rasmussen wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> A couple of

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-08-28 Thread Jmapb
On 8/28/2018 3:31 PM, Leif Rasmussen wrote: Hi everyone, A couple of days ago, I noticed that different post boxes in the United States had different ways of tagging that they were part of the USPS system.  Roughly 60% had "operator"="USPS", 40% "operator"="United States Postal Service", and

Re: [Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-08-28 Thread Paul Johnson
I fully support the expanded version, not the abbreviated version. On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 14:32 Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > A couple of days ago, I noticed that different post boxes in the United > States had different ways of tagging that they were part of the USPS

[Talk-us] USPS Post Boxes

2018-08-28 Thread Leif Rasmussen
Hi everyone, A couple of days ago, I noticed that different post boxes in the United States had different ways of tagging that they were part of the USPS system. Roughly 60% had "operator"="USPS", 40% "operator"="United States Postal Service", and about 15 similar to "operator"="United States