[Tango-L] Smart tango consumers

2007-11-14 Thread Heather Whitehead
I know it must be difficult to constantly try to find new ways to sell classes and workshops but when it comes to musicality we as consumers should be weary of language that treats the subject like a math equation. To over intellectualize is to tear the music apart. Deconstructing it from an

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Keith
Thank you Cammie. On the 8th response to the original query, someone has finally mentioned the pivot before the lady's forward step. Of course the unwind must be led before any forward or side step is led. And the unwind is led by a body turn to the left. For a Forward Ocho, this would also inc

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Gary Barnes
Marking the woman to come forward while she is not 'unwound' = she will lean but cannot step. Unless she has 'learnt' that she must unwind herself my 2c Gary On 15/11/2007, at 10:44 AM, Igor Polk wrote: > Interesting.. > > I'll try to lead the forward step without "unwind" and see what

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Cammie
As a follower, I have never uncrossed myself, nor heard that suggested in any class I have ever taken. However, a very common problem for followers is when leaders try to lead them into a front ocho from the cross without inviting the follower to pivot first. It is extremely awkward being lead in

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Igor Polk
Interesting.. I'll try to lead the forward step without "unwind" and see what happens. Great idea, worth to try, thank you! Igor. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Victor Bennetts
If I am going to lead a forward or side step out of a cross I should lead the unwind. You can feel the woman is in the cross in close embrace so I think this should happen naturally anyway. Here is my wife's views: I think there is plenty of time to unwind when it a side or forward step is led

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Alex
Steve: As I completed my post, what you wrote below dawned on me ... eventually (as more responses come in) I expect the majority to say that the uncrossing should be led ... or not led (led to "stay" crossed if you will) ... depending on the multitude of possibilities, the individual dancers, the

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread steve pastor
Alex: "When her right foot is crossed behind, it makes a forward or side step awkward if not impossible, and the only option is a back step (for her)." I'd have to disagree with this statement, but it depends to a large amount on how well your partner, and you dance. Her right leg, whic

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Club~Tango*La Dolce Vita~
>(not "unwinding")...or should she "unwind" (uncross) her right foot >My personal opinion is that unwinding/uncrossing, executed in a certain way, >can be much more aesthetically pleasing... >no time to unwind >"led" unwinding options... >should a follower unwind on her own or not? Alex P.S. No

Re: [Tango-L] Percentage of foreigners in milongas

2007-11-14 Thread WHITE 95 R
Would it be fair to say that the level of dancing of the foreigners in he BsAs milongas is higher than in the milongas of their country of origin? I mean to say that perhaps a lot of folks who go to BsAs for tango might be the more dedicated and skilled of tango dancers from the general tango p

Re: [Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Robin Tara
I like this question. And like most questions about followers' choice, it depends mostly upon the music. Robin > > What's the general consensus...after leading a follower to the cross (with a > juicy pause immediately after the cross)...and transferring her weight to > her left foot...shoul

[Tango-L] Percentage of foreigners in milongas

2007-11-14 Thread caroline
"My estimate of foreigners at Nino Bien last Thursday was 95%." Huh...I was there for the month of October. Went to Nino Bien almost every Thursday. And each time, it was only one foreigner I danced with (and the foreigner was a wonderful dancer from Italy who was very popular with the Argenti

[Tango-L] The Cross :: To unwind, or not to unwind, that is the question...

2007-11-14 Thread Alex
What's the general consensus...after leading a follower to the cross (with a juicy pause immediately after the cross)...and transferring her weight to her left foot...should she keep her right foot behind (in the crossed postion) (not "unwinding")...or should she "unwind" (uncross) her right foot a

[Tango-L] Percentage of foreigners in milongas

2007-11-14 Thread Janis Kenyon
My estimate of foreigners at Nino Bien last Thursday was 95%. I didn't go around the room and count the portenos. I merely observed the dancing and didn't see very many locals. I have lived here almost nine years and know the portenos from the foreigners. I remember when the portenos outnumbere