Re: [Tango-L] Keep away!

2007-12-27 Thread Krasimir Stoyanov
It is first a dance. This is the primary quality. Then, after that, it is a social dance. That was what Igor tried to say. It is nice to hold a woman, feel her breathing and heart beating etc., but this is something secondary to a dance. You can feel the same things without ever moving at all.

Re: [Tango-L] Keep away!

2007-12-27 Thread David Hodgson
Damn.. made a mistake... I should have said: Ladies, I expect nothing LESS than your presence, sharp-pointed elegance and refinement, to be who each of you are, at that moment during the tanda and dance. The space and pause between my request is yours. Igor: One thing; "A dancer like to dance"??

Re: [Tango-L] Keep away!

2007-12-27 Thread David Hodgson
Hmm.. Interesting. Igor, I believe your getting nervous. The reasons you write about are very real and illusion. However there is a veil between you and your Follow. Igor: For you, who is on the other side of the veil. But primary and utmost. Never forget this is a nice, simple, fun, social dance.

[Tango-L] Dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread Norman Tiber
At the risk of “enabling” postings about women as “metaphors,” I do have to admit that I have been guilty of using the “women as a broom” image. I have done this when describing the qualities that I look for in a dance partner, including my favorite partner, my wife Anne, in certain aspect

Re: [Tango-L] Keep away!

2007-12-27 Thread Keith
Oh dear, dear Igor. Now I feel truly sorry for you. If the items in Victor's list have nothing to do with your dancing, I can only assume you're dancing Ballroom Tango. They have everything to do with Tango. But yeah, I guess you won't feel those things from a paint brush, broom, etc. I'll be

Re: [Tango-L] Keep away!

2007-12-27 Thread Astrid
I read about the "splitter personality" in sex, I didn't know there are also splitter-types on the dance floor... You know, split things into "here are feelings" and "there is what we are doing right now, which is...", well, something bad in case of sex, and in case of dance, what would it be, I

Re: [Tango-L] Is she a woman, a follower or an object?

2007-12-27 Thread Astrid
Janis: > Astrid wrote: > Two brooms actually, and they look more elegant in the hands of this > tanguero than quite a few women I have seen..They follow perfectly too. > >>> > Pocho Pizzarro has danced with two brooms. He dances better with them > than > any woman. > Yes, it was Pocho that I s

Re: [Tango-L] Keep away!

2007-12-27 Thread Michael
Igor: A few days ago you encouraged brainstorming where people don't interfere other people's postings. Now YOU'RE complaining. I guess you can complain about other postings but nobody can complain about yours! Michael I'd rather be dancing Argentine Tango - Original Message - From: "Ig

[Tango-L] Keep away!

2007-12-27 Thread Igor Polk
This has nothing to do with dancing. And it is better to make a clear distinction. A dancer like to dance. Everything else is irrelevant. Igor Polk. 1. they embrace you with tenderness 2. you can feel their heart beating 3. you can feel them breathing 4. they are warm 5. if you do something in

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread Tango For Her
I'll take the woman who ... - Hears the music differently than I do. - Expects me to wait. - Desires me to slow down. - Is doing something with her legs that I can't see, but I know is wonderful. - Snaps to that front step during a quick milonga. - Makes me wait when she steps over.

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread Victor Bennetts
I think we can all agree brooms are great to dance with as demonstrated definitively in that CITA video. But I thought I would list a few things I like about dancing with my wife in particular and women in general (when the connection is good) that you don't get from a broom: 1. they embrace yo

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread Igor Polk
He-he-he.. That all sounds very funny, but... Have you actually tried dancing with a broom dear ladies? I can tell you, it is very difficult ! Much more difficult than dancing with a woman. Well, except probably when she is dancing like a mop... Igor Polk That is what I think.

Re: [Tango-L] Cellphone rentals in Buenos Aires

2007-12-27 Thread chenth
To expand on the options available: For US based visitors Sprint and Nextel allow roaming using a digital dual-band or tri-mode phone. The rate is $1.99/minute. You must activate this feature prior to use which is best done before you leave the US (it does not cost anything to activate). Note t

[Tango-L] steps for close embrace in close quarters (

2007-12-27 Thread steve pastor
Jay mentioned the ocho cortado. Take a look at the photos here http://www.tangoandchaos.org/chapt_3search/10ascent.htm to see just how little room you have to use. P.S. I love this site. Tons of good stuff. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo y

[Tango-L] Is she a woman, a follower or an object?

2007-12-27 Thread Janis Kenyon
Trini wrote: Tsk, Tsk, some of you guys seem to be answering as if the woman is an object. :)>>> Tango is danced by a man and a woman. Last night I danced with a man who called me "plumita" -- tiny feather. I've heard it before. For those women who have never been on a dance floor in Buenos Aire

Re: [Tango-L] Tai Chi Dan Tien and doing things in Twos

2007-12-27 Thread Don Klein
Chan Park does a Tuishou exercise in his teaching, but I don't feel it's very successful either for tango or taiji, but the similarity (and differences) between the two arts are intriguing; if I can ever get them down, I might write about them. A Belgian friend had a person teaching tango in h

[Tango-L] Cellphone rentals in Buenos Aires

2007-12-27 Thread Janis Kenyon
This is important information for those planning to travel to Buenos Aires in the new year. A friend of mine stays every year at Casa Tango on Independencia. Since there is no longer a telephone in that guest house, he decided to rent a cellphone. Some friends of his were staying at the guest ho

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread steve pastor
Broom's aren't the only ideal partners. Here's another idea, compliments of Lieber & Stoller: The sad sack was a sittin on a block of stone Way over in the corner weepin all alone. The warden said, hey, buddy, dont you be no square. If you cant find a partner use a wooden chair. Tango, ev

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread Astrid
> Brooms... > i....don't talk back; > iii. ...do what they're told, without question; > iv. ...don't think they're better than they actually are; and especially, don't think they are better than you !! Wouldn't you love that... ___ Tango-L mail

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread meaning of life
i think we should sweep this topic under the rug and GO DANCING The Tangonista Sponsered by P.E.T.A. (People Expressing Tango Attitude) NOTICE - no cats were injured in the making of our music > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:20:39 +0900 > CC: tango

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread Club~Tango*La Dolce Vita~
"dancing with a broom"...? Well, why not? Hmmm... Good enough for Fred Astaire (see "Royal Wedding", 1952), good enough for any of us! Besides, there are added benefits: Brooms... i....don't talk back; ii. ...are not subject to the stupidity of stupid so-called 'political correctness'

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread Astrid
And you don't > have to talk to them or invite them for coffee or > compliment on their attire or shoes or musicality or > technique. And they don't have those aggravating > FEELINGS sounds a lot more practical than a real woman... for SOME people, that is... Maybe you could dress up the

Re: [Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread NANCY
And brooms are the perfect followers, aren't they? They always do exactly what you tell them to do, they never 'mess up' your timing or your step lengths or your balance and they never do those annoying embellishments that thwart your creativity. They also show up when you want them and stay in t

[Tango-L] dancing with a broom

2007-12-27 Thread Astrid
> In your inventory of poetic imagery you seem to have forgotten the broom: yes, and dancing with a broom is the only thing that has actually been done successfully, IMO, you can see the performance in one of the CITTA videos. Two brooms actually, and they look more elegant in the hands of this

Re: [Tango-L] Brainstorming

2007-12-27 Thread desdelasnubes
> So far: > "baby on a swing" - excellent ! A follower, by Tango for Her. > "painter and his brush" - leader and follower, by Tango For Her > "musician and violin" - leader and follower, by Igor Polk< In your inventory of poetic imagery you seem to have forgotten the broom: > 3. You dance