Re: [Tango-L] Open Embrace Connection

2008-03-12 Thread David Thorn
Steve - There is a nuevo dancer couple that I see occasionally doing things that look impossible if both lead and follow are not managing their own axis and weight. Not being a 20 or 30-something, I don't expect to dance like they do, but some, I said some, of the things that they lead look m

Re: [Tango-L] Open Embrace Connection

2008-03-12 Thread Megan Pingree
On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:56 AM, David Thorn wrote: > ...I was mainly wondering how common it is for follows in open to > insist on "leaning". I really have no better word since they would > most definitely fall over if I didn't hold them up. And they do > tend to pull me off of my balance..

[Tango-L] Shoulder problems

2008-03-12 Thread Tango For Her
I just saw a post response about the rotator cuff. I want to pass along some great shoulder-protection advice that I got. This would work as a warmup before dance, as well. I used to have moderate shoulder problems due to lifting weights. One day someone told me that everytime I begin a workout

[Tango-L] gustavo's walk-space in close embrace.

2008-03-12 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
Look at :27-:50 in the clip you attached. He does walk directly in front of her feet, ie his right in front of her left, when he walks straight ahead in parallel system. Of course, when he switches to cross system, its different. flame wrote: "The point of referring to the length of Gustav

[Tango-L] Open Embrace Connection

2008-03-12 Thread Alex
To David - with the shoulder injury/pain, I have a similar problem, and followers who do this also tend to tweak my lower back. You should be able to get (lead?) them out into open embrace where they are totally vertical on - and responsible for - their own axis - for the two or three remaining so

Re: [Tango-L] Open Embrace Connection

2008-03-12 Thread Jeff Gaynor
Alex wrote: > To David - with the shoulder injury/pain, > David - Alternately, give them a hug, i.e., use one hand to support the other. I found this useful last year when I was having a nasty rotator cuff problem. The rotator cuff is responsible for stabilizing the shoulder so in the unilate

[Tango-L] Why (going to/ or teaching) too many classes can be deadly

2008-03-12 Thread Mario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ra1CGazrUw&feature=PlayList&p=517533904E339685&index=0&playnext=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iikKzQwgBJc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alcBFsaRoPQ I should know better than to stick my neck where I'm about to put it... but here go

[Tango-L] tweaking lower back [was: Open Embrace Connection]

2008-03-12 Thread Jay Rabe
Having tweaked my lower back several times before I figured it out, in my experience the biggest contributor to lower back issues (in a tango context) is tight hamstrings. They pull down on the pelvis, which increases the work that the lower back muscles must do as they pull Up on the pelvis

[Tango-L] Why (going to/ or teaching) too many classes can be deadly

2008-03-12 Thread Mario
Ooops...OK, I screwed up...sorry. This is the second video that I wanted to post showing the raw reaction to Tango music...down where the guts and feel of it lay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeKZChDkTrs Now, contrast that with the first very competent but oh so boring dance

[Tango-L] What Argentine Tango is, and what it is not

2008-03-12 Thread Mario
You / I, must dance with the same whole feeling/experience as this man sings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGY4fS1EAmo - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ T

Re: [Tango-L] Why (going to/ or teaching) too many classes can be deadly

2008-03-12 Thread TimmyTango
In a message dated 3/12/08 8:03:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I'm thinking that: these three videos show the real danger of taking or giving too many classes in Tango..namely, that the dance becomes a series of disjointed moves...a sequence of isolated moves wi

Re: [Tango-L] tweaking lower back [was: Open Embrace Connection]

2008-03-12 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Jay Rabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Having tweaked my lower back several times before I figured it out, in my > experience the biggest contributor to lower back issues (in a tango context) > is tight hamstrings. [...] > Second major contributor is weak abs,

[Tango-L] Open Embrace Connection

2008-03-12 Thread Alex
Jeff, Thanks for the note, but no, I don't think it's bad posture on my part. 90% of the time I dance, I have no lower back issues whatsoever - when I dance with followers who know how to be responsible for their own axis/weight - even in close embrace. It's the 10% of followers who think that

Re: [Tango-L] tweaking lower back

2008-03-12 Thread Keith
I'm surprised and yet I'm not surprised that so many people seem to have lower back problems attributed to Tango. I'm surprised because of my own personal perspective. In my pre-Tango days I had lower back surgery twice for 3 ruptured discs - L3, L4 and L5. Even between and after the surgeries I