Re: [Tango-L] Marketing or hype?

2008-06-10 Thread Astrid
The URL for the 2007 World Argentine tango show championship's list of winners is this: http://www.mundialdetango.gov.ar/tango_escenario_e.php The Japanese winners and finalists are all dancers I know personally, Chizuko still works at the studio I go to for their milongas while her partner

Re: [Tango-L] Marketing or hype?

2008-06-10 Thread Astrid
This would all be very well if this is how tango selling worked. But the reality is that a teacher in a studio will tell all his students, most of them beginner or intermediate level:"I have this teacher from BA coming over for a tango week, and he/she is really famous and one of the best tango

Re: [Tango-L] Tango Police

2008-06-10 Thread Alexis Cousein
Anton Stanley wrote: > "The wonderful thing about tango is that there is no official > organization to define what tango is" > > So I guess if you agree with the above, Tango can be the sum of > everyone's opinion. It all depends on the meaning you ascribe to "organisation". A social group can

[Tango-L] Reflections on competition and art form.

2008-06-10 Thread Amaury de Siqueira
I wonder... what is the side-effect of taking a socially grounded art form and making it a competition? In a few instances that I know of the competitive execution of art forms have eventually transformed the fundamental way in which artist practices and execute the art form. Emphasis on comp

Re: [Tango-L] Marketing or hype?

2008-06-10 Thread Chris, UK
> So, don't rush to conclusions if you just lack information, Chris. > The video of the teaching couple you posted does not look like they would > be able to win the Mundial in BA, but then you never know. I'm not rushing to conclusions, Astrid. I bothered to check the BA Mundial web site, and

[Tango-L] Pausing and Posing in Tango

2008-06-10 Thread Tango Society of Central Illinois
Should one used pauses in dancing tango? One of the difficulties in coming to a judgment about whether pauses are used or are normal in tango is that the 'pause' is not clearly defined in terms of its duration. At one level, one can say that one is ALWAYS pausing in tango (milonga and vals). A ma

Re: [Tango-L] Marketing or hype?

2008-06-10 Thread Jake Spatz
Nina (and others), Janis' point was not about superlatives alone: it was also about lies and deliberately misleading statements. Do you also accept those as a matter of course? If you do, what good is your word? Nina Pesochinsky wrote: > The question is who controls the student - other people o

[Tango-L] Pausing and Posing in Tango

2008-06-10 Thread Joe Grohens
Interesting thoughts on pausing, Ron and others. Are we using "pause" to refer to those times when each partner stays on one leg rather than changing weight with the music? I have experienced times when the dance floor is so crowded that the couples cannot progress, and you just have to danc

Re: [Tango-L] Looking for a Youtube clip of Milonga

2008-06-10 Thread Oleh Kovalchuke
Here you go, Norman: On Grace. http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/2006/msg07656.html -- Oleh Kovalchuke Argentine Tango : Connection, Balance, Rhythm http://tangospring.com From: Norman Tiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:49:39 -0700 So

Re: [Tango-L] Pausing and Posing in Tango

2008-06-10 Thread Ira Goldstein
Hi, Joe-- At 1:00 PM -0500 6/10/08, Joe Grohens wrote: >By the way, in the Osvaldo Centeno video, what is the music being >played? > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJLX7OA8Pg D'Arienzo/Mauré : "Amarras" --Ira Ithaca, NY ___ Tango-L mailing

[Tango-L] dance ezine

2008-06-10 Thread Tony
Hi All, Another issue of Smooth Moves has just been released - this time including a long article on Tango's history by a regular poster here (big thanks there!) and news of forthcoming Tango events in Europe. Please check out... www.oakebooks.com/ezines/index.php?ezineId=3 All the best, Tony

[Tango-L] Fwd: Women as wild horses that need to be broken?

2008-06-10 Thread Brick Robbins
I got this commentary in a weekly newsletter from our local Tango School here in San Diego (the one that has a teachers training program.) I found it somewhat amusing, so I thought I'd share it with the list, especially those who object to followers being compared to non-human things. And I'd like

Re: [Tango-L] Pausing and Posing in Tango

2008-06-10 Thread Joe Grohens
Oh, you're right. That goes by too fast for me to read it. I'm busy reading the stuff on the side. Interesting human factors issue. Thanks, Ralph! joe On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Ralph J. Hangleiter wrote: > As it says in the introduction: Amarras Juan D'Arienzo? > > Regards > Ralph __

Re: [Tango-L] Reflections on competition and art form.

2008-06-10 Thread Chris, UK
> Anyone needing examples of what the future will look like for tango > competition -- look at dance sport Or look at the past and present of social tango. It is already full of competition - the guys compete; the girls award prizes. ;) -- Chris ___ T

Re: [Tango-L] Tango Police

2008-06-10 Thread Anton Stanley
I have been described as anarchistic/chaotic by nature. Yet it's in perpetual conflict with the obvious benefits of order. Take as an example your field within computers Alexis; I can't begin to imagine the chaos if languages like Cobol, Fortran, Pascal, PHP, Java etc. had developed independently i

Re: [Tango-L] Reflections on competition and art form.

2008-06-10 Thread Astrid
In some places it is more like the girls compete and the guys award prizes. I can't send this to the list coz it is a one liner and contains your whole posting...>= I - Original Message - From: "Chris, UK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:

Re: [Tango-L] Reflections on competition and art form.

2008-06-10 Thread David Hodgson
Wow Astrid.. I think the whole idea is kooky. It is like saying men are more logical than women. My thought, in what arena. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astrid Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tango-L@mi