[Tango-L] chear up - Re: Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Christian Lüthen
Ha, Shahrukh, brilliant posting. And of your best ever in your function as moderator of the list! Congrats! Here's a little link I received this morning which hopefully makes you all chear up again (on tango matters!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=6QaSJAbc2mg Enjoy! Christian .

Re: [Tango-L] dark milongas

2009-02-24 Thread Michael
I think the dark milongas comes from ballroom where ambiance is so important. I don't like dark ballrooms nor milongas. I used cabeceo a lot the first year I went to the Atlanta tango festival. It didn't work because it was too dark so I didn't dance a lot. The following year the organizers had

Re: [Tango-L] Cabeceo [was "Shocked"]

2009-02-24 Thread Steve Littler
Yes, but in ballroom the woman doesn't have to hug up to a stranger in an intimate fashion, heart-to-heart, cheek-to-cheek. She usually stands apart and looks away from him. (It didn't take me long to quit ballroom after I found Tango.) Steve Jack Dylan wrote: > This might come as a surprise t

Re: [Tango-L] Cabeceo [was "Shocked"]

2009-02-24 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Jack Dylan wrote: > This might come as a surprise to many but not everyone in enamored > with the cabeceo. My partner danced Ballroom for many years, where > the tradition is that the man comes to her table and politely asks her > for the pleasure of the next dance

[Tango-L] shock

2009-02-24 Thread sherpal1
oh my god, get over this:? i have never seen so many postings about such an insignificant mattermove on, get a lifesay something important. sherrie ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Shahrukh Merchant
Klaus Radek wrote: > shocked a little even, to see how unrespectful people were to Damian > (Nougts) - even to making him leave here!. I can tell you he is a ... rest of much-discussed post deleted. "Michael" wrote: > The moderator should the originator and "his sister" off the list. (I assume

Re: [Tango-L] Cabeceo [was "Shocked"]

2009-02-24 Thread Ilene Marder
cabeceo was also designed to help the ladies as well as the men. I hate having to turn down dancers I don't want to dance with when they come to my table to ask me to dance, because no, I don't dance with everyone that asks. as for the practices in ballroom...COMPLETELY different set of circumst

Re: [Tango-L] dark milongas

2009-02-24 Thread Steve Littler
Excellent question Ilene! And why don't they segregate the men and women so you can look across at them in the eye? When I first got started in this dance I read up on all the customs and my Argentinian instructor talked about the codes in B.A., but nobody here was doing them. I remember trying to

Re: [Tango-L] Cabeceo [was "Shocked"]

2009-02-24 Thread Jack Dylan
This might come as a surprise to many but not everyone in enamored with the cabeceo. My partner danced Ballroom for many years, where the tradition is that the man comes to her table and politely asks her  for the pleasure of the next dance. And, if he has a little charming chat, then so much th

Re: [Tango-L] Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Christian Lüthen
As I do not know that teaching-while-social-dancing-person and I do not risk to bump in I did not care to even remember the name! but the fact of teaching *during* a milonga is disturbing!!! esp. if a teacher does it! Therefore not too much insulting to mee. Interesting enough to observe ju

Re: [Tango-L] Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
I don't see how slandering someone and straight out telling lies could be seen as a joke. In my opinion, it's an insult to the purpose of this list. So far, there has not been a retraction or explanation by Klaus or no apology to Damian that we know of. Klaus' post was not funny. It was irre

[Tango-L] dark milongas

2009-02-24 Thread Ilene Marder
I agree re: many milongas in US being too dark. You can't do cabeceo and you can't see the details of the dance. The tradition of tango carries with it the notion that you learn by watching the dancers at the milonga. I don't think that is outdated or "old school" in any way...it helps us all

Re: [Tango-L] "Shocked"

2009-02-24 Thread Tango Mail
Larry said: Sometimes when I see someone "teaching" I'll ask the lady to dance with me by saying "If I promise not to teach you anything will you dance with me?" Usually I get a smile in return and a Yes! But (very) occasionally I get a puzzled frown and the response "I liked it." Whic

Re: [Tango-L] Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Michael
Astrid: I thnk you're missing an important point. Klaus named a dancer by name, Damian (Noughts), and described his dancing. That didn't sound like a joke to me. Michael On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Astrid wrote: > I fin this long discussion of all these American dancers agreeing that > Ther

Re: [Tango-L] Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Jack Dylan
A 'discussion' implies people offering different views. So far everyone has agreed that teaching in a milonga is a big no-no. So, where's the discussion, other than confirming what we all already know. I really don't understand why Klaus wasted his time in writing such a silly post and wasted o

[Tango-L] Surviving Tango was RE: Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Vince Bagušauskas
Is the etiquette of what to do at a milonga adhered to by even experienced dancers. Fortunately when I joined my old tango club, they handed out a flyer (maybe it is now on the web?) of what to do. But do schools/teachers do this or refer their students to a source, before they venture into th

Re: [Tango-L] Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Christian Lüthen
> Not only women easily accepted it? I believed it as well. True: some followers also think they need to 'educate' the leaders. I remember one follower doing this to me some years ago ('offering' me her comments and teaching in a too offensive way) ... allthough she regulary looks at me at the

Re: [Tango-L] Shocked

2009-02-24 Thread Myk Dowling
Noughts wrote: > I most certainly do NOT offer feedback or advice whilst social dancing > except compliments or in rare extreme circumstances. Klaus is joking. Having shared a dance floor with Damian before, I will confirm that he does not behave in the manner described in Klaus' message. I've

Re: [Tango-L] Leading with the heart and the core

2009-02-24 Thread Myk Dowling
David Thorn wrote: > A "non-arm" pickup can be executed by my matching her turn rate and > stepping directly in with an on-body pickup. Yes, my arms encircle her > at the same time, but the required arm pressure is no more than is found > in many an orco cortado executed with energy (Susanna