[Tango-L] Milonga, etc.

2009-08-03 Thread Ming Mar
Keith writes: >Remember: there are no singers/lyrics until 40 or 50 years >later (from the beginnings). The earliest known tango is "Dame la lata" by Juan Perez. It was written around 1880 or in the 1880's. It had lyrics. According to your assertion, tango music existed in 1840 and nobody

[Tango-L] (no subject)

2009-08-03 Thread c . roques
Ming Mar wrote: <> There is probably no "first" tango. For all anyone knows, it could have been a Neopolitan folk song played on the flute. Like most music, tango was a hybrid of several musical styles that evolved, but Keith is correct about the lack of lyrics, although nothing is strictly

Re: [Tango-L] Dame la lata

2009-08-03 Thread johnofbris...@tiscali.co.uk
Do any recordings exist of "Dame la Lata?" John Ward Bristol, UK - Original Message - From: "Ming Mar" To: Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: [Tango-L] Milonga, etc. > > Keith writes: >>Remember: there are no singers/lyrics until 40 or 50 years >>later (from the beginn

[Tango-L] Origin of tango - Candombes

2009-08-03 Thread Sergio Vandekier
Around 1880, Gauchos (cowboys) that normally brought cattle to Buenos aires started to settle around the city. They brought with them, their payadas and Milongas Camperas to the suburbs of the city. Here they interacted with African slaves that had their own dances called Candombes. Th

Re: [Tango-L] What do you think?

2009-08-03 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Sun, 8/2/09, jb34...@att.net wrote: The good “nuevo dancers” dance anything from the > close embrace club style to “nuevo” based on their mood > and available space. I.e., they dance tango. > For example, M & S did an underarm turn – they did it > “tango like” IMHO. One or two underarm t

[Tango-L] Candombe and Murgas

2009-08-03 Thread Sergio Vandekier
The Argentine Murgas are groups that prepare dances and songs to perform and parade during Carnival. The way they dress, sing and dance reminds me of the way the Candombes were done during the times after the independence of Argentina from Spain in 1810. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS7UPQ

Re: [Tango-L] What do you think?

2009-08-03 Thread Brian Dunn
> The good “nuevo dancers” dance anything from the > close embrace club style to “nuevo” based on their mood > and available space. I.e., they dance tango. What do you call someone who can speak, read and write English, Japanese, Swahili, and Russian with clarity, precision and humor in all lang

Re: [Tango-L] What do you think?

2009-08-03 Thread Noughts
Brian, may I quote you on that? I really fully believe all should re-read this and think... I use an analogy of the Windows operating system.. but this, this is soo much better. 2009/8/3 Brian Dunn > > > The good “nuevo dancers” dance anything from the > > close embrace club style to “nuevo” bas

[Tango-L] Dame la lata

2009-08-03 Thread Ming Mar
John Ward writes: >Do any recordings exist of "Dame la Lata?" http://grupos.emagister.com/ficheros/vcruzada?idGrupo=1542&idFichero=105073 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] Dame la lata

2009-08-03 Thread Ilene Marder
Mong, thanks for this...but I cannot get the song to play ( transferring data stalls)...if anyone can make this work, I'd really appreciate a post containing the track. thanks much, Ilene Ming Mar wrote: >John Ward writes: > > >>Do any recordings exist of "Dame la Lata?" >> >> > >http://g

Re: [Tango-L] Dame la lata

2009-08-03 Thread Ming Mar
OK, I guess I should explain how to download the MP3 file of "Dame la lata." On the page at http://grupos.emagister.com/ficheros/vcruzada?idGrupo=1542&idFichero=105073 you'll see a box with an orange arrow pointing down. In the box are a bunch of words ending with "click aqui" in blue. Cli

Re: [Tango-L] Dame la lata

2009-08-03 Thread Ming Mar
OK, it's been pointed out you have to log in first. Go to http://grupos.emagister.com/ for Email use: b122...@tyldd.com for Contrasena use: bugmenot click on Acceder then go to http://grupos.emagister.com/ficheros/vcruzada?idGrupo=1542&idFichero=105073 look for the box with the orange a

Re: [Tango-L] Dame la lata

2009-08-03 Thread Ilene Marder
Ok..I had to register for the group and was then able to hear it. (I still havenl' seen the orange arrow for downloading). Great! thanks so much.. it definitely sounds to me like those early milongas we've been talking about... thankyou! I. Ming Mar wrote: >OK, I guess I should explain how to

Re: [Tango-L] What do you think?

2009-08-03 Thread Anton Stanley
I have no issue with the views of Brian Dunn. But in my opinion, it's not dealing with the fundamental problem facing many of us. I believe a milonga is a venue of social dance, not a forum for experts. In most fields including sports, experts interact with their peers in an environment of equa