[Tango-L] Srgio cannot step off the beat

2010-01-20 Thread Sergio Vandekier
The prior discussion centered on teaching beginners to step on the tango beat. Some posters felt that it is possible to dance stepping off the beat. Leaving sarcasms aside, I think that that concept could have some validity and originate confusion as well. When we become good tango

[Tango-L] Tango in film and what is traditional?

2010-01-20 Thread Vince Bagusauskas
This is what is written on Wikipedia regarding Tango The milonguero style is characterised by a very close embrace, small steps, and syncopated rhythmic footwork. It is based on the petitero or caquero style of the crowded downtown clubs of the '50s. In

[Tango-L] Tango in film and what is traditional?

2010-01-20 Thread Charles Roques
Vince wrote: In contrast, the tango that originated in the family clubs of the suburban neighbourhoods (Villa Urquiza/Devoto/Avellaneda etc.) emphasizes long elegant steps, and complex figures. In this case the embrace may be allowed to open briefly, to permit execution of the complicated

[Tango-L] Tango in film and what is traditional?

2010-01-20 Thread Alberto Gesualdi
Well, unfortunately, there are no such films or clips , Vince. It is as you say, what may be seen on movies is a show , or something pre arranged by the director of the film. On Tango Bar, there is a small piece of dance by Tito Lusiardo, and then Carlos Gardel says now I will dance and make

[Tango-L] obviously not 'real' tango... the 'younger' generation in BA...

2010-01-20 Thread Tony Rathburn
just an example of what has been discussed recently... how the younger generation doesn't understand what those who grew up on tango learned... what is missing today... i watched this couple perform last night in BsAs... and dance socially... unfortunately, i didn't have a camera... they

[Tango-L] obviously not 'real' tango... the 'younger' generation in BA...

2010-01-20 Thread Charles Roques
Tony wrote: i watched this couple perform last night in BsAs... and dance socially... unfortunately, i didn't have a camera... they essentially danced the same style, in a smaller space... don't know why anyone would want to emulate this... Hmm, looks nice to me. I can see why someone might

Re: [Tango-L] obviously not 'real' tango... the 'younger' generation in BA...

2010-01-20 Thread Tony Rathburn
sorry charles... i forgot to light up the slightly sarcastic icon... (sarcasm button off now...) i thought they were amazing... yes... he starts with the dreaded back step... yes... his boleos come off the floor... yes... he does back sacadas... and enganches... and drags... yes... he

[Tango-L] obviously not 'real' tango... the 'younger' generation in BA...

2010-01-20 Thread Patricia Katz
Tony wrote: i watched this couple perform last night in BsAs... and dance socially... unfortunately, i didn't have a camera... they essentially danced the same style, in a smaller space... don't know why anyone would want to emulate this... Lovely musicality, smooth, confident! I'd love to

[Tango-L] Aerial Tango- young people dancing comme il faut

2010-01-20 Thread Alberto Gesualdi
When discussing how young people could dance or not tango , there are events that make myself to change my mind. One of this events, a privilege to live in Buenos Aires, was shown on Parque Centenario new open air theatre. An spectacle of Tango aereo / Aerial tango , was shown, free entrance,

Re: [Tango-L] Aerial Tango- young people dancing comme il faut

2010-01-20 Thread RonTango
- Original Message From: Alberto Gesualdi clambat2...@yahoo.com.ar To: tango-l@mit.edu Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 11:52:55 AM Subject: [Tango-L] Aerial Tango- young people dancing comme il faut When discussing how young people could dance or not tango , there are events that

[Tango-L] et tu trini, only on the beat ?

2010-01-20 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
Trini wrote, Really, I don't get this convolution of Sergio's simple statement about stepping on the beat. I orifginally objected because that is misleading to beginners and retards their musicality. come now, Trini, i am sure you dont step only on the beat. Have you ever watched a roomful of

[Tango-L] Subject: Re: obviously not 'real' tango... the 'younger'

2010-01-20 Thread fl...@2xtreme.net
Nito and Elba have been in the SF Bay area often as they are dear friends of Nora Dinzlebacher and I've had a chance to dance briefly with Nito during classes. He's an amazing leader, very easy to follow because his intention is so clear. He said during a class on turns that he still continues

Re: [Tango-L] et tu trini, only on the beat ?

2010-01-20 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
There are 4 beats one can step on in a measure of tango. If you're doing milonga, there's also a half-beat. It's simple. Step on one of the 4 beats. Sergio is correct when he says to step on the beat. He didn't say you only had to step on the first beat. Trini --- On Wed, 1/20/10,

[Tango-L] et tu trini, only on the beat ?

2010-01-20 Thread newtonr
Bravo, Martin (wrote)! Tango is not about a beat. It is a music rich in nuance and texture. You can dance rhythm, melody, or the narrative theme of the piece, the linea de fuerza. I once overheard a tango dancer comment, during intermission at a classical ballet that the dancers were not

[Tango-L] The beat goes on

2010-01-20 Thread hbboogie1
With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment, it's worth reflecting on the death of a very important person which almost went unnoticed last week. Larry LaPrise, the man who wrote The Hokey Pokey, died peacefully at age 93. The most traumatic part for his family was

[Tango-L] Tango beat I

2010-01-20 Thread Sergio Vandekier
Sometimes we do not communicate well but we mean the same . Here some examples to study. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF-2P1XPwkfeature=related Here La Maleva starts stepping with the melody because the beat is very weak but when the beat becomes stronger she steps always on a beat

[Tango-L] Tango beat - Milonga beat

2010-01-20 Thread Sergio Vandekier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41HTWpSgsoMfeature=related American tango beat: Ta-ta ta ta ta-tatata Dance as slow-slow-quick-quick-slow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnstd90XVT0feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxi7WFlQAf0feature=related Argentine tango