Re: [Tango-L] invitation to dance

2011-02-02 Thread Alexis Cousein
On 02/02/2011 05:04, sherp...@aol.com wrote: i notice over and over again, that this list is mainly made of up men who communicate only with one another...when a woman responds, she is cut off or ignored... I read you post to the end, just to be sure you don't accuse me of cutting you off, but

[Tango-L] marketing survey

2011-02-02 Thread meaning of life
in an effort to build our tango community, we did a small, informal, and unscientific marketing survey. the sample consisted of young (plus or minus a bit 17-21), likely dancers (already dancing something for the most part), male and female. our hope was to figure out why there was a problem

Re: [Tango-L] invitation to dance

2011-02-02 Thread barbara
Gee I thought it was only me! On 01/02/2011 10:04 p.m., sherp...@aol.com wrote: i notice over and over again, that this list is mainly made of up men who communicate only with one another...when a woman responds, she is cut off or ignored...if this is how you dialogue, it must be an indicator

[Tango-L] invitation to dance

2011-02-02 Thread Patricia Katz
Well said! Always the Same, same, same. Patricia http://www.torontoargentinetango.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: tango-l-boun...@mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-boun...@mit.edu] On Behalf Of barbara Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:19 PM To: tango-l@mit.edu Subject: Re: [Tango-L]

Re: [Tango-L] invitation to dance

2011-02-02 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:19 AM, barbara barb...@tangobar-productions.com wrote: On 01/02/2011 10:04 p.m., sherp...@aol.com wrote: i notice over and over again, that this list is mainly made of up men who communicate only with one another...when a woman responds, she is cut off or ignored...

[Tango-L] invitation to dance

2011-02-02 Thread sherpal1
thank you mr. huck for continuing to ignore me...why is a simple statement of my feelings about men ignoring women's tango advice so over the top...it further illuminates the inabilties of some male posters to take women's answers, suggestions and comments about tango and the list seriously.

[Tango-L] The Tango Invitation or simply a lead

2011-02-02 Thread Brick Robbins
I found dancers in BsAs using two different Spanish words to signify what we would call lead in English: marcar llevar. I even had one lesson where the teacher went to great lengths to instruct the men in the class to think of leading in terms of marcar instead of llevar. Our language sometimes

Re: [Tango-L] invitation to dance

2011-02-02 Thread Alexis Cousein
On 02/02/2011 20:13, sherp...@aol.com wrote: thank you mr. huck for continuing to ignore me...why is a simple statement of my feelings about men ignoring women's tango advice so over the top... Because it lumps al men together and is overgeneralising, as I also said. it further illuminates

[Tango-L] Truth in stereotypes

2011-02-02 Thread Charles Roques
I personally think Sherrie has a legitimate complaint and I am a male. I am always admonishing my male students about teaching. They start doing that from the beginning class but it gets worse after they learn a few steps. Teachers have to not only emphasis this but they should correct and

Re: [Tango-L] Truth in stereotypes

2011-02-02 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Charles Roques c.roq...@mchsi.com wrote: In fact they [men] tend to dominate the discussions on Tango-L as well.  I think Sherrie has a valid point. Perhaps more men choose to post than women, but that is not the same as dominating the discussion in the

Re: [Tango-L] Truth in stereotypes

2011-02-02 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Quite correct, Huck.  Many of my posts and queries generate a good deal of discussion, so I'm not inclined to say that posts by women are ignored.  I would think that discussion is based on content, not on the gender of the poster.  If someone feels their post is being ignored, then I would

Re: [Tango-L] marketing survey

2011-02-02 Thread Michael
Dear Tangonista: This is useful information. I remember seeing tango rules posted at a milonga. One of them was follow the line of dance. (Lewis and Clark found a path to the Northwest but a lot of people can't find the line of dance.) Perhaps some of the observations could be printed in local

[Tango-L] invitation

2011-02-02 Thread sherpal1
i am a teacher of tangoi teach men to lead , i do not teach on the dance floor I charge for lessons...I have danced and studied tango since 1998 and I know what is necessary for a woman to follow from a man who is trying to lead. the assumptions that have been made about me, my

Re: [Tango-L] Marketing Survey

2011-02-02 Thread rcgimmi
Here's a bigger survey that was done in the Portland, Oregon area a couple of years ago. There were, I recall, almost four hundred responses. It's titled, Why I Quit Tango: http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=jgRE23jZaqJkQXe_2fRgco1GgAZSrPouqVp_2b1F2ZxnZVk_3d (If the link doesn't work,

Re: [Tango-L] Marketing Survey

2011-02-02 Thread Gordon Erlebacher
Hi, Let us start a new thread. What constitutes elitism? It is the notion of deciding on the proper way of dancing tango, or else? Does it relate to policing the Milongas? Does it relate to playing only one kind of music? Or is it a I am a better dancer because I put lots of work into my

Re: [Tango-L] invitation

2011-02-02 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, sherp...@aol.com sherp...@aol.com wrote: what i said initially ,which was never met with a rejoinder(an answer to a reply) was this:  the man creates a space that invites the woman to move into, not pushing or shoving, but inviting  as gavito said, the lead moves the woman