Re: [Tango-L] How tango evolves

2008-11-25 Thread Barbara Garvey
As an unrepentent traditionalist, I have only a small bone to pick with Nina. I don't think that a trip to Argentina makes or breaks the ability and/or desire to dance real tango. I know several couples who dance traditional tango beautifully who have never been to BsAs. (Students of ours who ha

Re: [Tango-L] Article on Argentina

2008-11-24 Thread Barbara Garvey
Except for references to more recent governments, this article could have been written in the 1980s. When we were there in 2006 the potholes and sidewalks had noticeably improved compared to the '90s. So, they've deteriorated.again? And the villas miserias were much in evidence in the '80s and '9

Re: [Tango-L] Barridas, sweeps, drags, etc

2008-11-21 Thread Barbara Garvey
useful way to remind followers that they must have all their weight on only one foot. Abrazos, Barbara Garvey Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote: >1 - All of the woman's weight is on one foot so that the extended leg is >weightless. The woman cannot be taking a big step. She needs to fin

Re: [Tango-L] Tango Argentino - 1989 - 1999 - go Sergio!

2008-11-15 Thread Barbara Garvey
Dear Mario et al, As Sergio wrote, this is an article from the Clarin newspaper. It was written by one of their regular tango reporters Irene Amuchastegui and Laura Falcoff. The translation (by Sergio??) is terrific too. Mario wrote: >This guy Sergio can write Do I hear some applause? >

Re: [Tango-L] Tango Styles

2008-11-12 Thread Barbara Garvey
Yes, Traditional Tango is a better description than Villa Urquiza, and Sergio's description is apt. Milonguero style was done at the same time, in the city center, very simply, in various styles, with major emphasis on walking and back ochos. In 1993 or 94 Susana Miller opened her school to tea

Re: [Tango-L] Traditional Tango

2008-11-12 Thread Barbara Garvey
Amen! This is what was thought of as the best salon (social) tango and taught exclusively as such prior to 1994. This is what today's younger (and older!) tango stars learned to dance in the milongas, before expanding the vocabulary for exibition. Believe me it can be, and was, done on crow

Re: [Tango-L] What's going on here?

2008-11-08 Thread Barbara Garvey
What I saw was a somewhat typical milonga scene in a small new-ish community. Line of dance is pretty well observed, no clashes. It looked like everyone had studied only with the same teacher, and had learned "steps".That doesn't mean that the teacher taught only steps, he or she could be teach

Re: [Tango-L] Chris - decent Nuevo leads

2008-07-28 Thread Barbara Garvey
Although I am not a fan of nuevo tango, the videos cited are both Homer and Christine Ladas of San Francisco, and even this traditionalist old lady can tell my fellow Nuevo bashers that they dance quite simply and beautifully in line of dance at traditional milongas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Tango-L] Dancing socially to Piazzolla

2008-07-21 Thread Barbara Garvey
Actually, Al and I heard Piazzolla make this statement at a lecture he gave in San Francisco on his second and last visit to this city. As I recall his exact words were "My music is not for dancing". I can't give the precise date (or year) without research but another friend, John Rolleri, was

Re: [Tango-L] In defense of the basic eight count steps

2008-06-17 Thread Barbara Garvey
Aside from astonishment that Mario has never encountered the D8CB, he does have some valid points. Actually our students don't hear about it until someone asks and we are forced to explain. Al and I do however teach a 4CB, that is a salida from 2 to 5. In over 20 years of dancing tango, almos

Re: [Tango-L] Transportation tip-Bs. As.

2008-04-20 Thread Barbara Garvey
A comment on airport taxis: It is my understanding that in some cities taxis pay a special tax to pick up passengers at airports. This is true here in Puerto Vallarta, thus it is always much more expensive from the airport into town than vice versa. In fact here only specific taxis can pick up a

[Tango-L] Not Nuevo Milonguero

2008-04-10 Thread Barbara Garvey
the way we thought about tango in1987 and is our basis for judging dancers to this day. This scene in Tango Bar is probably as close as it is possible to get to the Golden Age of tango.. There are a few clips on Ney Melo's Youtube page, thank you Ney! Abrazos, Barbara Garvey ste

[Tango-L] Deadline for Seduced by Tango???

2008-03-25 Thread Barbara Garvey
Does anyone know what the deadline is for entries to Seduced by Tango? The website doesn't provide a clue . . . ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] In the land of the blind, the one-eyed..etc.

2007-11-19 Thread Barbara Garvey
Dear List, What I wrote was: >>>As for the origins of close embrace, Tete was, as far as I know, one of the >>>first to teach the style, in 1993 or 4, under the auspices of Susana Miller. In 1994 Daniel Trenner told me all about him, her and milonguero style as the only true form of social tan

Re: [Tango-L] In the land of the blind, the one-eyed..etc.

2007-11-19 Thread Barbara Garvey
Thank you Charles for pointing out once again (as I have been doing for over a decade on this very List) the legendary nature of tango history. >Some "milongueros" even stopped dancing completely for many years but as tango became newly popular again and potentially profitable, they conveni

[Tango-L] An Introduction to Tango

2007-09-25 Thread Barbara Garvey
Al and I are planning an Introduction to Tango event next week for the curious thrill-seekers of this tropical paradise. It will be 2 hours long, although subsequent ones may have to be only one hour. We would like any and all ideas of things to do, to teach, to say, like good one-liners about

[Tango-L] Best description of tango in Spanish

2007-08-29 Thread Barbara Garvey
Hi all, I am looking for a really good description of tango IN SPANISH for our Spanish-speaking students. My writing & translating abilities aren't sufficient to do it myself. Can anyone direct me to a website? Thanks, Barbara ___ Tango-L mailing list

Re: [Tango-L] Expanding social dancing to exhibition level?

2007-08-23 Thread Barbara Garvey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Who is a milonguero? >>>A few weekends ago, my teacher Florencia Taccetti was telling me about the days when she was going out every night dancing in BA, about her favorite partners, who was going to the same places and where they were going. The current generati

[Tango-L] YouTube question

2007-08-04 Thread Barbara Garvey
Hi all, I have a question about YouTube videos and copywrite. Having read the copywrite notice on the YouTube website it seems that no tango videos could legitimately be posted, since they all involve copywrited music. So does one just ignore that? It seems to me that practice on YouTube is no

Re: [Tango-L] Tango is mystery, not work

2007-08-01 Thread Barbara Garvey
Thank you Nina, Tango is simple, the more you know about it, the more obvious its simplicity becomes. It is not easy, it is maybe even hard. A good many of the weirder discussions on this list are a result of lexigraphic sloppiness, poor reading skills, interpretations of ideas filtered through