I have a question for you all.
What does traditional tango mean to you, with reference to the dance?
I was given one definition, with great certainty, in the USA, and it
is quite different than what the words seem mean here in Buenos Aires.
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From: Jack Dylan jackdylan...@yahoo.com wrote
?
I agree that Gardel is a good place to start and then go through
Tango's evolution
with special emphasis on the Golden Age. Finish off with Piazzolla and
a little Nuevo,
while stressing the continued importance of music from the Golden Age.
?
Music
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Chris, UK t...@chrisjj.com wrote:
Never met those Spanish evening class students who know an incredible
number of words but still cannot hold a conversation with a native
speaker??
Have you ever met a person who spoke a language fluently who DIDN'T
have a
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:50:38 Michael tangoman...@cavtel.net wrote
The Argentines only use about seven figures to dance. That was a wake up call
when I visited BA.
I really find these grand generalizations amusing.
The young Argentinians I see dancing in Milonga10 or El Yeite Tango
Club use
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Cherie macfro...@aol.com wrote:
Brick, I think you said it: the young Argentinians.
There is definitely an age demarcation here--the young want to dance more
athletically, and on occasion the women want to kick over their heads.
First off, let me be clear that
From: Alexis Cousein a...@sgi.com
Look at film archives, and tell me whether what you see there
is ballroom tango.
One thing to keep in mind, is that ballroom tango changed over the
years too. The dance that is called The Tango in ballroom events,
didn't really take it's current form until
I'n Mario's original post Tango 'Al Reves' he lamented
soon the dance will be s twisted that we will have to look for
alternative music that is likewise twisted to go along with it
It seems to me that in this post Mario was really lamenting the
degradation of true tango in these modern
Mario sopel...@yahoo.com Wrote;
...I suppose that we can all imagine/guess at what 'Al Reves' meansa new
twist to the traditional dance
As we said earlier Al Reves is NOT new. It was being danced 50 years ago.
So, call me a retro, someone against 'progress'..and that I will soon have
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsy4xLSGXdc
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From: Jack Dylan jackdylan...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Better? Worse? Just different.
Traditional Tango is what is danced predominantly by the Argentines
in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires.
It really is that simple.?After all, what else can it be?
There are 150 milongas a
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:13:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jack Dylan jackdylan...@yahoo.com
I think I'll stick with 'traditional'. What is Tango without
tradition??Probably
something that's no longer Tango.?
What exactly does traditional tango mean to you? Here where I live,
there are people who dance
A friend of mine from Adrogué, a suburb of Buenos Aires, and well off
the tourist's beaten path, forwarded me this video of a local tango
performance he saw in a local cultural center.
Performed and produced for the local folks by the local folks, so you
get an idea of what many Argentines think
On : Sun, 13 Mar 2011 Sharon Pedersen wrote:
I visited New York this weekend.
Dancesport Milonga, 1.5 hours, 3 tandas.
Mariella Franganillo's Practica, 2.5 hours, 3 tandas.
All-Night Milonga, 2 hours, 1 tanda.
What is anyone else's experience on visiting large cities?
It is my experience,
There are a couple of different issues that are being confused here
(at least in the USA)
1)The right to play the music in public. If one wants to play music in
public, whether for payment or not, one must have a licence to do so.
This includes background music in public spaces, such as stores.
Ming Mar ming_...@yahoo.com asked:
I have a question for people who also do other dances: Are
the non-tango people nicer than tango people?
In a short word: Yes.
Longer explanation:
First off, I am a formally trained ballroom teacher who doesn't teach
or dance ballroom much since I drank the
I found dancers in BsAs using two different Spanish words to signify
what we would call lead in English: marcar llevar.
I even had one lesson where the teacher went to great lengths to
instruct the men in the class to think of leading in terms of marcar
instead of llevar.
Our language sometimes
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:45:01 -0800 (PST)
Larry Richelli larryri...@yahoo.com wrote:
One only need to study the tango community in San Diego. There are more men
then woman at almost any milonga. snipI have not been able to figure this
phenomena out, but it is one of the only
places I have seen
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Brick Robbins br...@brickrobbins.com wrote:
I would like to ask that you not form an opinion of Melina's blog post
from the short excerpt that I posted.
Here is the link once again
http://melinas-two-cent.blogspot.com/2011/01/tango-cosmopolites-or-not.html
OnTue, 18 Jan 2011 23:26:21 +0100
elina Sedo Detlef Engel ta...@tangodesalon.de wrote
Check it out:
http://melinas-two-cent.blogspot.com/
Oh my, Melina, you are living dangerously posting opinions like this
here. grinSince many here are proud to have danced Argentine Tango
with the
A lot has been said about Stage Tango en la salon vs Social Tango, and
there is a lot of not-so-civil discourse about the shape of the
embrace and what constitutes authentic Argentine tango, which in
reality, depends on which era and which barrio you are using as a
standard.
In my way of looking
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:08:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Mario sopel...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Tango-L] Type-A Tango
Here is an interesting Tango blog written by a young woman doing a month
in her Mecca of Tango, BsAs!..She is passionate about the music and dance:
http://borastangojourney.com/
when
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:14:19 -0300
From: Shahrukh Merchant shahr...@shahrukhmerchant.com
Brick Robbins br...@brickrobbins.com wrote:
It has been my observation that many people who dance exclusivity in a
close embrace have issues with posture and balance, of which they are
not aware
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:13:22 +
From: Sergio Vandekier sergiovandekier...@hotmail.com
Subject: [Tango-L] The Basics
Some people may choose to teach only close embrace.
It has been my observation that many people who dance exclusivity in a
close embrace have issues with posture and
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 1:28 PM, JOHN WROBLEWSKI
nrj.spar...@prodigy.net wrote:
That, is there is no measureable reliance of posture and balance on each
other..In other words, you might as well be dancing with yourself.
Following your logic, there is sufficient distance between the
Claiming that just about anything having to do with tango is one
particular way in Buenos Aires is ludicrous.
Not that people don't do make that claim. One good ex-pat friend who
lives in Buenos Aires once told me What they do over at [that place]
is not tango, with which I'm pretty sure my
it otherwise looks like tango milonguero, the tango danced in the milongas of
Buenos Aires.
After a couple of months now of dancing in Buenos Aires, I'm now
finding comments like this to be almost absurd.
There is simply so much tango here that almost any variation of style,
music, embrace,
.This foreign
couple doesn't like dancing where the foreigners dance.
So to loosely quote Woody Allen They'd never join a club that would
allow people like them to become members? WTF?
Brick Robbins
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I'm visiting Buenos Aires right now, and have already had some
wonderful evenings with list members.
I would love to meet others that live here or may be visiting. If you
would be interested in getting together, or meeting at a milonga,
please contact me off list. I'm staying in San Telmo, and
Anybody in BsAs have any insight on this? Is it affecting Tango?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124642190802178481.html
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:06:10 -0700 (PDT)
Mario sopel...@yahoo.com wrote:
Two great walkers (how would you say that in Spanish?)
I love how this couple reveals the music to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nSMK_ubSl0
Ahhh Detlef Melina from Germany. I had the pleasure of taking
some
There is an old joke in Argentina:
How do you make a quick buck in Argentina? Buy a porteño for what
he's worth, and sell him for what he says he's worth.
Truth and reason have never gotten in the way of national pride, and
few are more proud than Porteños.
So don't expect any Porteño to accept
The shirts are made of Coolmax fabric
Coolmax is made from a specially shaped polyester fiber with grooves
along the length of the thread.
The grooves do 2 things,
1) the capillary action distributes the moisture over a longer
distance along the thread, spreading out the moisture giving more
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:18:23 +
From: Jay Rabe jayr...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Shocked
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OK, here's a contrary opinion:
I disagree with the hard rule about teaching at milongas. I believe the
rule that should
be focused on is to
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:40:48 +1100
From: Roger Edgecombe edgecomb...@optusnet.com.au
Subject: [Tango-L] tap tap ..testing .. tap tap: Tango-L still alive?
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Hmm - I see lots of tango-A posts but almost nothing for tango-L. Is it
just deathly quiet or has something gone
Tango is something you do with your body and your heart. It is a motor skill.
Writing, talking, thinking, are all things you do with your head. They
are intellectual skills.
It is possible to dance very very well, and have no intellectual
concept of what you are doing. This is why I think so
, and then asked her to dance!
Brick Robbins
San Diego, CA
http://www.sandiegotangofestival.com/
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The musicians use counts when they identify the type of music.
Tango is 4/4, Vals is 3/4.
They use counts when they learn to play, and the most leaders do some
form of counting 1 -- 2-- 3 -- 4 when they start the orchestra
playing. Even purely improvisational musicians such as Jazz artists
Valentin TIEDE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Counting steps and beats when dancing Tango ...
This is as if you drink a bottle of champagne discussing the chemical analysis
of the wine; as if you see a beautifull sunset discussing the frequencies of
the electromagnetic waves going into the eyes.
I'm
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:45:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But if a woman dresses well and looks like she could be a fun person on the
dance floor, then she can still get asked. If she's sitting there sulking,
no one is going to want to ask her to dance.
It seems convenient to me to divide Tango into two basic types based
on the intent and focus of the partners:
1) Social Tango.
In social tango the dancers dance FOR each other. It doesn't really
matter what the dance looks like, what matters is how it feels. They
may be striving for an intimate
Joe Grohens wrote:
Brick wrote (about Homer and Christine's video):
The dance goes back and forth between close embrace and neuvo, so
view it till at least a minute before you tell me it is not nuevo.
I don't understand why people use the term close embrace as an
opposite of tango nuevo
I used
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11 +0100 (BST)
From: Chris, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] (no subject)
I don't recall one convincing example of nuevo dancing from the music.
How about this?
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualVideoID=5719494
(
I got this commentary in a weekly newsletter from our local Tango
School here in San Diego (the one that has a teachers training
program.) I found it somewhat amusing, so I thought I'd share it with
the list, especially those who object to followers being compared to
non-human things.
And I'd
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 10:22:45 -0400
From: Floyd Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Tango-L] Qualifying Tango Instructors.
To: Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu
Neat subject, eh? :-)
So how about testing instructors for their competance in teaching
Tango?
Why look no further!
Such a
syllabus is designed for certification.
After having worked in and around the dance teaching industry for many
years, I personally feel that the syllabus is more actively used as
a marketing tool than it is used as a teaching tool. It works so well
as a marketing tool because it looks like the
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Gender Imbalance in Tango
I think there are some communities where the students end up sorting out
among the teachers--with one group of teachers teaching the basics Tom
describes and another group to teaching fancy figures and long sequences.
As
Another community with too many men (or more accurately, not enough
women) is San Diego.
During prime time at one of our more popular milongas recently, with
maybe 40 couples on the floor, I counted 10 men sitting out.
This doesn't mean that *every* milonga is leader heavy, but it has
become so
Chris, UK wrote
You've described a group for whom the music
is secondary, so no surprise at all that here the curtain's effect is
actually detrimental.
Actually I've described a group of men who want to dance.
They do care about the music, They care about the music a lot.
But if the men wait
some slack
eventually you will have a better dancer.
Have you ever spoken with a foreigner who is taking a class to learn
your language? Are you rude, short and mean when they make mistakes?
Brick Robbins
San Diego, CA
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You are not totally alone, but all of you should stay home.
They are probably doing it to make you leave. I would.
Are you sure it is tango you want to learn?
Cheers (and please don't move to New York),
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