[Tango-L] Lo De Laura

2008-01-17 Thread Keith Elshaw
Thanks, Pichi! I've always had a fondness for D'Agostino/Vargas' milonga En Lo De Laura. Neat to know what it inspired it and get a bit of flavour from the article. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] A true tango - Nieves

2008-01-18 Thread Keith Elshaw
Yes, a true lovely choreographed. Now, the back-story on what it is missing: Carlos Saura begged Maria Nieves to appear in this film, for he meant it as a tribute to Copes and Nieves. At the time, it was too soon after Juan dumped her to dance with his daughter. She would have none of helping hi

[Tango-L] A True tango - Copes

2008-01-18 Thread Keith Elshaw
Context. Copes is known for being the first person to choreograph tango for professional dancers on stage. ! You could say he invented the nuevo tango of his time (early 50's). He gave Piazzolla (and so many other -performers and theatrical artists) jobs and a place. (http://ToTANGO.net/copes.ht

[Tango-L] DJ Remi died

2008-02-09 Thread Keith Elshaw
Thank you Christian for kindly letting us know. I knew nothing about the man; never had communication with him. I wish I had. How I wish. As a tango dancer, I have felt gratitude and a debt to Remi for years ... because as a dj I have had a dim awareness of his major contribution. But as a sound

[Tango-L] DJ Remi died P.S.

2008-02-09 Thread Keith Elshaw
Forgive me - I want to clarify and expand. I said the quality of the CD's sucked. That sounds negative and I regret that inference because: I love that Remi collected and published the great tango recordings like no one had ever done - in chronological order, with recording dates etc. Wow. (The r

[Tango-L] Remi

2008-02-09 Thread Keith Elshaw
I should like to web-publish a tribute to Remi. My I ask for contributions - whether personal or not - of an informative nature? This guy affected us all. The ones who know it should speak-up. Thank you ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://m

[Tango-L] Argentine Tango Dancer Census

2008-03-05 Thread Keith Elshaw
Enjoyed reading Tom's take on things. This really is a topic of great importance; having any sort of "true" numbers would be of benefit to so many promoters. Of course, we can't know very "true" numbers. But trying to get a "true" grasp of "pretty true" would be useful. "Useful!";-) I know i

[Tango-L] The vocalists

2008-03-22 Thread Keith Elshaw
Hi all; Looking back on how my tastes in tango music have changed (a constant rumination because of the dj and restoration interests), I realize the biggest shift has been in how I react to the singers. I thought - I'll bet others have been or will be going down the same road I have. Especially o

[Tango-L] Harsh & comments

2008-04-09 Thread Keith Elshaw
Hi guys; Forgive me for being self-conscious; seeing people talking about "Keith" making harsh comments, I just wish to make sure you know it's not "This" Keith. You know what I mean. BTW, I was just caught in the domain renewal companies-take-their-time-so-you-don't-exist-for-a-few-days thing li

[Tango-L] snarky comments on Atlanta demo

2008-04-09 Thread Keith Elshaw
Keith E. from Montreal here ... It's easy to see comments come from people with fervently held views. As they will be. I do think people learn over time, as they get a deeper understanding of everything, that the views they express in their enthusiasm and early critical stages are not necessarily

[Tango-L] Buffalo's Ladies Only lesson report

2008-04-24 Thread Keith Elshaw
All those intrigued with Floyd's curious teachings about how to dance tango can see his demonstration of exactly what he means by viewing the video he has on his website. You will see it is quite possible to have your feet, your knees, your hips, your chest, your arms, your shoulders and your head

[Tango-L] Milonga sequence

2008-04-26 Thread Keith Elshaw
Thanks for that clip pointer, Richard. Neat to see. Mores was so brilliant. But how odd is it that his orchestrations kept the bandoneon way in the background - even though he plays it? Keith ToTANGO.net ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http:

Re: [Tango-L] weight change

2008-04-27 Thread Keith Elshaw
Floyd wrote: > 'weight changes'... are not something that can be relied upon for a lead. Weight changes by the > follower must be led so the follower knows for sure. Very clear. Yikes! I'm racking my memory, trying to recall if I've ever heard such nonsense. Or so much of it from one source as

[Tango-L] Weight of words

2008-04-27 Thread Keith Elshaw
No one has said anything, but it might seem (at least I could understand if it it was thought) that I was pretty strident in my post earlier today. Since I pushed "send" on that one, I have been thinking it would have been good if I had at least provided a tiny bit of background at least in parent

[Tango-L] people who can and can't

2008-04-27 Thread Keith Elshaw
Just between us list members, this current credibility of posters insistently stuffing our mail day after day with air-head silliness made me wonder what the deal was with another person who was recently apparently banned from the list. Because one can look at him dancing on videos, too. Seeing so

[Tango-L] Seeing the light, finally

2008-05-03 Thread Keith Elshaw
Floyd wrote: "Although I'd leave out milonga. :-)It's only danced to burn off excess energy. I personally rest during milongas.., so I don't have to rest during the Tangos that follow. :-)" Thank goodness Floyd never ceases to share his wisdom and insight. Where would we all be without i

[Tango-L] Milonga

2008-05-03 Thread Keith Elshaw
It WAS given to us by the gods to bless our souls with joy and happiness. But, it seems to me, the essence of milonga is not immediately devined by the new lover of tango. Milonga is like tango itself; also like what an interesting woman may do to an ardent gentleman admirer: kind of retreat behin

[Tango-L] Milonga P.S.

2008-05-03 Thread Keith Elshaw
It might have been useful if I had put the reminder in my post about milonga that it in fact pre-dated what we know as tango. It is not a "different" dance than tango - it is a parent of tango. Teachers with great "wisdom" would be wise to know this before applying for their certification, Mr. Flo

[Tango-L] Ladies Leading

2008-05-04 Thread Keith Elshaw
Man though I am, I shall dare to offer another way of thinking about it all. There is a very good reason why many women decide to give leading a go: so they don't have to sit all night. Typically, there are more good women dancers than men. Most of the women I have seen, in many cities, giving le

[Tango-L] Ladies leading, etc.

2008-05-04 Thread Keith Elshaw
Interesting thing happened today after I sent my post. I then went to run my Sunday afternoon milonga. A bunch of people from an east-coast American city (who I knew because I have dj-ed there) showed up ... A few men who like to follow and a woman who likes to lead. The role-reversal thing is

[Tango-L] Ladies leading

2008-05-07 Thread Keith Elshaw
Following on Mario's link to the blogspot ... I hadn't mentioned in my post (but have included it on my website) that the women who lead I was referring to have a lot of experience and are really good dancers. This is different from a woman who has been dancing a short while deciding she would li

[Tango-L] More Nuevo bashing. Why??

2008-05-12 Thread Keith Elshaw
Well, we have a perceptible divide. It's been looming and growing for 4 years, more-or-less. Hopefully, people on both sides are quite sensitive to the reasons and implications. But - there is a Problem. Divides are not good things. Division separates and dilutes. We are seeing the sad effects

[Tango-L] Nuevo Bashing - why?

2008-05-12 Thread Keith Elshaw
"Maybe my friends Fabian, Gustavo and Chicho and some others would like to show some leadership to their blithe disciples"? Explain about respectfully dancing in the ronda and keeping to your own space and not bumping and kicking - and all those good things? _

[Tango-L] Middle of the floor

2008-05-12 Thread Keith Elshaw
Before Nuevo ever came around, some knowledge-challenged people decided that was a good place to do their thing. If you don't know, that can seem reasonable. Of course, it's not that at all. People in the ronda all-of-a-sudden found/find themselves being blind-sided from bodies coming out of nowh

[Tango-L] Zotto y Ermocida...dance slooooo

2008-05-20 Thread Keith Elshaw
Gavito was, perhaps, the first in recent times to really slow down, intensely freeze, time and be anti-flash/fast. He raised eyebrows. Maybe he over-did it as time went by. But, it is certainly an approach that is a good counter-balance to the frantic show style that inevitably gets copied as "tang

[Tango-L] Osvaldo y Lorena

2008-05-20 Thread Keith Elshaw
Oh, dear. Just received word that Osvaldo and Lorena have been robbed of their documents. They've been on media in BA asking for their return (there was no money in the bag), but to no avail. They were to be in Miami in 2 days for the Festival. Now, that's impossible. What a shame. Roberto Reis

[Tango-L] Estilo Villa Urquiza

2008-06-29 Thread Keith Elshaw
Sergio; Por favor! y gracias!! :-) Real tango is so beautiful ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] Free download

2008-07-03 Thread Keith Elshaw
I'm sharing a great song that is neat to hear without all the noise and scratches it has come down to us with. http://ToTANGO.net/ttindex.html ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] (no subject)

2008-08-08 Thread Keith Elshaw
So now, we have arrived at the place where one maintains one's "credibility" on Tango-L and self-respect by ... never posting to Tango-L. If no people show up, no one wants to go. I am thankful that the gratuitous moronic postings have been screened-out since my last cry for sanity. I think a c

[Tango-L] Change

2009-02-08 Thread Keith Elshaw
What times we live in, eh? Best to have seat-belts fastened. I've only been around tango for 20 years, so I'm a newbie. But my studies and sense tell me that more has been changing in the last 15 years than had been happening during the previous 4 decades. We had the resurgence of tango which f

[Tango-L] Para Los Ninos Tango Charity

2009-04-23 Thread Keith Elshaw
John and Cheryl Lowry and friends in Brisbane, Australia began this charity work 9 years ago. They raise money in the tango world to make life better for homeless children in Buenos Aires. To me, it's such a great idea: have a milonga once a year in your city donating the proceeds to this cause an

[Tango-L] Kely

2009-04-29 Thread Keith Elshaw
Of course whoever met Kely and Facundo over the years must have enjoyed the two of them. The personal charm and lovely way and ability to make people feel like they could do it too has made a big mark because they travelled so much. (I remember my times with them in much the same way I so fondly

[Tango-L] Kely

2009-04-29 Thread Keith Elshaw
I just received this email from Bs. As.: "Shahrukh made a mistake on her name and age when he posted to Tango-L. Would you please correct it? Kely Lamdan turned 69 on December 24, 2008." ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.e

[Tango-L] Kely

2009-04-29 Thread Keith Elshaw
The mail that is coming to me about Kely ... I appreciate so much knowing anew how many fans she had around the world. I want to be so careful ... in no way do I want to have anything I say seem to be critical of anyone else. I am not. PLEASE don't read the following as if it is. But I would s

[Tango-L] A pair of great walkers

2009-06-17 Thread Keith Elshaw
My reaction is this was a nice video to share. And darned if I'm not prompted by it to make a comment or two; this perhaps in particular relation to the recent threads about commenting on teachers, etc. as well. My own way of helping people move forward for years (in social tango) has been to he

[Tango-L] arm angle, keith, huck

2009-06-19 Thread Keith Elshaw
You know ... our personalities make us do things how we do them. Every person on Earth should be given room and feel free to be/express themselves, of course. There are many who will be slightly different in performance than they would be on a crowded dance floor. I guess I decided a long time a

[Tango-L] 3 styles of Tango

2009-07-25 Thread Keith Elshaw
A very cool guy called Peter Bengsten made it and allowed me to put it on my site. Bottom of the page. http://ToTANGO.net ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] What Do You Think?

2009-07-25 Thread Keith Elshaw
I am sympathetic to lovely dancers who have talent and grace and skill. I appreciate the tone of their comments. I just wish they would add: This is performance tango, or tango for a place where everybody is doing nuevo and there is disregard for other dancers on the floor. Please don't do this

[Tango-L] What Do You Think?

2009-07-26 Thread Keith Elshaw
sense is that what I describe is happening all around the world. It might be a bit subterranean; but people who really love tango (not mainly for business) are always going to move in this direction. Go for it, guys! Build a local social scene, not a teaching business. Lots of people will be cheering you on. Cheers, Keith Elshaw ToTANGO.net ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] What Do You Think?

2009-08-01 Thread Keith Elshaw
Jack wrote: "After all, Milonga only became part of the 'Tango Trinity' in the 1930s." Uh - no. Milonga pre-dated tango. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] What Do You Think? Milonga

2009-08-01 Thread Keith Elshaw
> Milonga pre-dated tango. > > The milonga we dance nowadays [2 beats to the bar, fastish ,as in Milonga > sentimental] only goes back to the 30's. The pre-dating one was a slow > dirge played by the payadores towards the end on the 19th Century and > hardly ever danced to. Piazzolla revived it in

[Tango-L] Milonga, etc.

2009-08-01 Thread Keith Elshaw
It's true that, post-Piazzolla, a thinking has crept in that the music and the dance are not the same thing. This thinking and retro-view recitation does not make it so. The dance and the music were integral. Always - until the 1950's. The people who created it all didn't sit and listen to vals.

[Tango-L] Milonga, etc.

2009-08-01 Thread Keith Elshaw
Yes, you may imagine me being slightly peeved when I see people doing tango moves while trying to dance milonga. I feel sorry for the women being pushed around to make something happen that just isn't natural. And I feel sorry for the men who just don't get it. 1-2/2-2 Is not at all the same as

[Tango-L] What is Tango? (Or Tango Categories) - ...

2009-08-04 Thread Keith Elshaw
I for one think Jack hit the nail smack on the head with his post. What do they call it again when you stare at some words and they become, through short contemplation, grotesque absurdities? "What is tango" when asked by a tango dancer should get that person banished to a milonga dj-ed by a pers

[Tango-L] What is tango? II

2009-08-05 Thread Keith Elshaw
I'm a big fan of Sergio's postings. Can't help it. In the last, which included all those videos, one jumped-out at me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXU9nojcFQo In my heart of hearts, I wish more demonstration tango was shown this way. They are doing a "show" - but it's tango-tango. Doing the

[Tango-L] Tango is Argentine

2009-08-05 Thread Keith Elshaw
AJ wrote: > Germany is by far the most removed of the influences. Of course one understands what Al meant and I do not wish to quibble. However ... Herr Band's little "improvement" on his accordion, which became the pillar and soul of the tango when it arrived in Argentina, ought to be a crucia

[Tango-L] Tango is Argentine

2009-08-05 Thread Keith Elshaw
Nina's post was interesting to read. But, exasperating. I hope other women (and men) don't believe it has currency. I, of course, can only speak for myself. But I believe most men who can dance tango reading her post would want - like me - to run grovelling to every woman partner in the Universe

[Tango-L] Tango is Argentine

2009-08-05 Thread Keith Elshaw
AJ: > Tango would have been tango even on kazoo. Gasp ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] Call for Kazoo Players

2009-08-05 Thread Keith Elshaw
Need to record 5,000 tango, vals, milongas songs as a start toward making Argentine tango music sound like it would if that bandoneon thingy had stayed home in Germany and left us alone. Dance experience not necessary, of course. No need to have correct pitch, we can fix that in the mix. TSPOER

[Tango-L] Screaming Tango singers

2009-08-20 Thread Keith Elshaw
I am in hearty agreement with the sentiment Shahrukh expresses. My take from the production side of things: This vexatious over-doing of singers can come mostly from either the performer doesn't have sensitive hearing - so they shout for that technical reason - or because they just haven't enough

[Tango-L] History related to news these days

2009-08-21 Thread Keith Elshaw
Hello Friends; Last night, I got to hug Tine Herreman because she is here in Montreal working this weekend. :-) I hope I will see her for private time aside from last night when she visited my milonga late. Tonight and tomorrow I can go to where she will do her thing in different milongas. I

[Tango-L] Alberto Podesta by Beatriz Dujovne

2009-10-01 Thread Keith Elshaw
The long version of Beatriz's interesting portrait of the living legend - with lyrics, translations (thanks Jake) and audio sample is now on http://ToTANGO.net. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] Nuevo Milonguero

2009-10-04 Thread Keith Elshaw
This thread provokes me to say: I read people I respect equally seemingly on one side or another of a "divide." How can this be? Well, fortunately, we all have our own relationships and/or opinions. So we can see that there is no problem - other than semantics or individual terms of reference, p

[Tango-L] N.U.E.V.O.

2009-10-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
>I don't blame them, I blame the teachers ... The key point. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] Missing Magic

2009-10-12 Thread Keith Elshaw
Over the last few years, I have been ruminating on these same thoughts and perceptions. Periodically, my concern has been quieted when I've had a conversation about it with dancers in other places ... and they say they having been feeling the same things. Whew! It ain't just me. I like it that e

[Tango-L] Missing Magic Thread

2009-10-13 Thread Keith Elshaw
So, I'm into tango for 20 years. I swear I'm starting to get it! ;-) At least, I can't help but feeling things are being revealed. That's why I'm always on my knees ... a lot going on that one such as me might never get. Important to pay attention. I look up a lot to try to get it. Chords

[Tango-L] Ignacio Varchausky Audio interview

2009-10-29 Thread Keith Elshaw
I invite you to make a cup of tea or coffee, sit back and listen to Ignacio speak about his many projects including El Arranque and Escuela de Tango and specifically the Tango Digital Archive Project and what lost gems he is uncovering. It's in 3 parts. >From his home in Buenos Aires, Ignacio says

[Tango-L] Niata Rego R.I.P.

2010-02-23 Thread Keith Elshaw
Niata Rego was Juan Carlos Copes' first partner. A great lady who was content to be totally unknown. She is mourned in her passing by a great many. A sweet recent picture and some of the story is on ToTANGO.net. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu

[Tango-L] Miami Festival Blogging

2010-05-31 Thread Keith Elshaw
If anyone cares to read some notes on the Miami Tango Fantasy: http://ToTANGO.net ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] The Basic Elements of Tango

2010-07-07 Thread Keith Elshaw
>Just got this today in the email from a local (Argentinian by origin) teacher: >"A class to learn, review and polish the fundamental elements in Tango: ochos, paradas, boleos, barridas, ganchos, amagues, giros, sacadas, etc." To me, this is all still teacher talk to make tango complicated so pe

[Tango-L] Basic

2010-07-07 Thread Keith Elshaw
I pressed "send" by mistake! Walking, ochos, gyros. With the music. So many people learn all the fancy stuff on top of that they they never learn the real basics. If the above three were all you knew and could do well, you could dance all night with anybody in the world (except people who had be

[Tango-L] Basics

2010-09-20 Thread Keith Elshaw
Folks make good points based on what they know, who they are, and how they feel. At this moment. We're definitely not all going to be the same at the same time. Hearts in the right place always should count, no matter what. (If I may say)? ___ Tang

[Tango-L] Threads of late and Huck's question

2010-09-20 Thread Keith Elshaw
> What do you think are the tango > basics that should be learned, > Keith? I'm not picking up anything about that at all > from what you wrote > above. A whole bunch of us have given our > ideas, what are yours? > > Huck Honestly, about 2 minutes after I pressed "send," I realized it

[Tango-L] YouTube

2011-01-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
I don't think anything can replace the good eye and helpful advice of a knowledgable teacher in person - but I don't know how anyone would not acknowledge how interesting the fact of YouTube's existence is. I made a video and placed it there for anyone interested in the old music and dance footage

[Tango-L] Interesting Tango Listing

2011-06-14 Thread Keith Elshaw
While it is tempting to think one's own views are the only ones which matter or should be countenanced, this is rather a trap. After-all, our views surely change as we grow in understanding/perception/experience. How we think "today" might not be how we think "tomorrow" when time has gone by and

[Tango-L] Men's strategies

2011-06-16 Thread Keith Elshaw
It is most important how you walk when you enter the room; when you go to your table. People judge how you might dance from how you walk. Be graceful, deliberate, unhurried. Head-up and shoulders back. It is a good idea to walk to the music that is playing. If it is a fast beat, go half-time.

[Tango-L] Report on the Tango Festival

2011-08-23 Thread Keith Elshaw
Thanks from me, too Sharuhk, for the music news especially! I envy you the concerts you've just witnessed and appreciate reading your report. Ignatio Varchausky is surely the great tango angel/producer of our age. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu

[Tango-L] My Macs and my tango

2011-10-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
Thank you SO much, Mr. Jobs! In early 1984 I bought MacIntosh #000311. That was it for me; love at first touch. Every time Mac grew, I bought the new model. Thinking back, I realize I spent an awful lot of time full of glee showing friends what a computer could REALLY do. For years. It can still h

[Tango-L] Pugliese, sound

2011-11-21 Thread Keith Elshaw
Trini, I'm sure pretty much everybody has pondered the points you raise. So many issues for the dj around Pugliese's recordings. His 1950's-onward recordings are one thing and a different topic from the 40's recordings - which Must be heard and played for dancing. It is true that the intensity of

Re: [Tango-L] Sound system for milongas

2013-07-31 Thread Keith Elshaw
(Hi Lois)! This past weekend I did 3 milongas in Canmore, Alberta. The organizer, Yves Mayrand, always has a back-up for everything. His intention was to set-up his Bose system with 4 Tweeters and a whoofer. It's software controlled, and fabulous. But I suggested we test his bose boombox whic

[Tango-L] Alberto Podesta concern

2013-08-21 Thread Keith Elshaw
FYI - Friends of the last remaining giant of the Golden Age are appealing for small donations to help defray his nursing costs. Sometimes now he is lucid, sometimes not. A great Artist. No other singer sang with as many great orquestas. ___ Tango-L m

[Tango-L] Should Tango-L continue?

2015-04-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
Tango-L was undeniably Very Important for years. I am one of the many who appreciates today the friendships I made through Tango-L. In a perfect world, would I like to see it find a new relevancy? Yes, of course. Is that possible? I personally don’t see why not – although apparently a fresh m

[Tango-L] How to bring Tango-l back

2015-04-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
I'm amazed I didn't think of it before! If Shahrukh brings us all together for a weekend of partying OOPS - brainstorming! - we could really have a fantastic time and re-invent the wheel, surely. Heh, heh. Everybody please press "like." ___ Tango-L m

[Tango-L] How to bring tango-l back

2015-04-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
"Shahrukh owns a restaurant in BA." How interesting. Good to know. I too have used cooking and food as a way to fill the gap left by a not-interesting tango scene that used to be thrilling. And the pitch for Shahrukh's "come to my place, old-timers" weekend just got a LOT better! ___

[Tango-L] Sergio Suppa

2015-04-08 Thread Keith Elshaw
I never met Sergio in person but we struck up a real friendship via email and I considered him generous and helpful to the tango community by writing interesting pieces for my website. I am very saddened by this news of his passing and send my condolences to his friends. Thank you Sean and Trin

[Tango-L] Or FB

2015-04-09 Thread Keith Elshaw
The ubiquitousness of FB notwithstanding, one marvels that people don't realize that even if you ever just looked at it and did NOT join, you are now being tracked from then on every minute you are on the web. Every site you visit builds them your profile. So that when you arrive on a site the

[Tango-L] Disney and Argentine inspirations

2015-04-14 Thread Keith Elshaw
Steve wrote: > Possibly the boy had heard some Tango music in a Mickey Mouse cartoon. > I > know I was exposed to a lot of other culture music in cartoons as a > child. This is the case. I grew up in small-town Ontario with eyes and ears glued to the one snowy TV station we could reliably ge

[Tango-L] The Sound of the Music

2015-04-20 Thread Keith Elshaw
(This verges on a “commercial” post - which L rules allow once a year - to share and present to those who’ve never heard). In 2000 after more than 10 years of continually collecting all the tango music I could find, and loving it and dancing and dj-ing and learning with a passion, something un

[Tango-L] Ignacio Varchausky

2015-05-07 Thread Keith Elshaw
A reader this week asked me for the interview I did with Ignacio and then told me she thought people would benefit from hearing it now - and told me Ignacio will be in Portland next month for the week-long musican's intensive. Great news! Download the entire interview at http://ToTANGO.net. To

[Tango-L] Lasting Effects (Australia!)

2015-06-20 Thread Keith Elshaw
The old Tango-L brought people together in relationships that will last long after it is gone. So how can you not love it for that? Especially important to me are the friendships I made way outside my geographic area. Like, the world! L is responsible for my being able to now go to 7 Australian

[Tango-L] My goodness ...

2016-09-19 Thread Keith Elshaw
... I just saw a post on the L! Well then; happy to say hello and invite you to see ToTANGO - all new for the 20th anniversary. Yes, some of us have known each other that long now. http://ToTANGO.net All the Best, Keith ___ Tango-L mailing list Tang

[Tango-L] Be Aware of Wonder: Robert Fulghum and... ...

2007-09-07 Thread Keith Elshaw
Tom - that was the Most welcome post. Big thanks. Feelings. How nice to still get them here. Lots of residual good ones hanging around this old place. Hi, old guys!:-) k ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listi

[Tango-L] another Pablo Veron clip

2007-09-21 Thread Keith Elshaw
Igor wrote: What style is this? That is the stage (where exagerated movements are called for) style Pablo Veron in 1999 (bet he wouldn't do that now) doing things he borrowed from many people - but most particularly movements created by Copes and Pepito. If it was a serious question, there's a se

[Tango-L] La Mariposa?

2007-09-24 Thread Keith Elshaw
My favourite of the older versions is sung by Oscar Alonzo. Not to be missed! ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] Tango Conversations

2007-11-16 Thread Keith Elshaw
It's easy to put oneself in a category, noticing that many other dancers are not the same. We could be new or experienced; like to dance close, or not; prefer nuevo or not, etc. Here is a category I am in: I don't REALLY enjoy dancing if there is no conversation. By that I mean - both people expr

[Tango-L] Truth and Truthiness

2007-11-27 Thread Keith Elshaw
The truth could be said to be, I think, that Tango-L has been virtually made comatose and put on virtual life-support by people who might be well-meaning; who certainly are smart; but who do not exhibit personal knowledge of having learned the cardinal rule of tango and life: Be generous. If you

[Tango-L] Tango-L

2007-11-27 Thread Keith Elshaw
I'm sorry (that's a Canadian for you, eh?), I wish to say: Tango-L was once such a great, great thing. There are many people who met somewhere and became life-long friends (even if they have never met in person also) through it. About 8 years ago, one chap was very rude and disruptive for his own

[Tango-L] No Subject - about statistics

2007-11-28 Thread Keith Elshaw
Last night, I said it seemed 90% of the people who have been killing Tango-L are men. A representative of the other 10% just declared herself with her post with this title. She can't understand my anger. Of course not. Look what she writes and how she adds to the discourse. Charles, she just gav

[Tango-L] No Subject from Doug

2007-11-29 Thread Keith Elshaw
> I can write to Tango-L. You think? If you do, I'm sure it would please a lot of people - although I can only speak for myself. It's really interesting and informative to get a glimpse or sense of actual people who are around and what things interest them. You know, you'll see that there can b

[Tango-L] Posters

2007-12-01 Thread Keith Elshaw
It really seems so important to have an environment always existing where someone looking in for the first time will just want to jump in - "because" ... never having reservations come up because of reading - you know.;-) I ask with all sincerity for members to consider and then maybe agree

[Tango-L] Lydia & the Miami Festival

2007-12-05 Thread Keith Elshaw
This morning (Wed), Lydia Henson goes under the knife on knee one. I gather what she will endure is painful to recover from ... but it is to fix what has been SO painful for a long time. And that being taken care of, there will be the other knee next.! Those of us who have been in her little

[Tango-L] A Big musicality quotient

2007-12-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
One of the reasons AT has always had a special pull for me is that it demands one express oneself. How you feel at the moment, how you feel about life and everything. Seems to me that one's musicality will come to fore best when: One is "lost" in the music; One feels confident about self in the

[Tango-L] Musicality quotient P.S.

2007-12-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
Sorry - pushed send to fast. Musicality is never going to come from the head. Gotta come out from the body. I can play drums, so I can move all my limbs and parts of my trunk independently. This is a big part of my style. For anyone feeling un-musical with no music playing background, frustratio

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality quotient P.S.

2007-12-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
> Ron wrote: >>I understand you as saying musicality is expressed in your feet. Well, that would be a pretty dumb thing to say. I said it comes from feeling and the body and then named practically all it's major parts. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-

[Tango-L] Musicality (Feets Don't Fail Me Now)

2007-12-06 Thread Keith Elshaw
Those of you who have been around a while might understand why earlier I wanted to make it clear that I had not said musicality was about the feet. I was talking about weight (where it is is what your partner needs to know); moving with the lower body and keeping the upper body clean and clear for

[Tango-L] Inspiration & Imitation

2007-12-19 Thread Keith Elshaw
Victor Bennetts wrote: >I have heard it said in BsAs that a milonguero starts with hundreds of steps and ends up with >five, but they own those five steps. ESO!! For years now, when asked, I have told people that I "don't 'do' anything." This is my way of encouraging men to stop "adding" things

[Tango-L] Keep away

2007-12-28 Thread Keith Elshaw
Igor wrote: >I do not like when "feelings" are a substitute for the quality of dance. Now, ladies - I know you are dying to have a dance with someone with this attitude, but - please - take a number. And be patient. A man who doesn't respond to feelings is SO popular. You understand. Igor: thi