[Tango-L] Women singers in Bs.As. milongas

It's been reported on this list that traditional milongas in Buenos Aires don't play women singers. Is there a reason for that? I would think that Donato Racciatti with Olga Delgrossi would be quite danceable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbxJMGYUiT0

[Tango-L] Not dancing with the music

Felicity wrote: >I think those things are hard to teach. Nah. The following video shows students respecting the beat of the music and not bumping into each other. In 2008 Mario wrote: >It's a mixed practica ... >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdDZwdVPkQQ Felicity wrote: ­>How do you teach ge

[Tango-L] Technique in class

Felicity writes: > I've never actually had a persuasive explanation about > what people think technique is as something you really > have to learn in class. I think that correct technique is how to do something in a way that doesn't disturb your partner. The guy who leads you in a way you fin

[Tango-L] Not dancing with the music

People aren't dancing with the music even when the music is d'Arienzo, so I don't think the problem is difficult music. Do the men know that they are not dancing with the music? Do they even know they're supposed to? It is impolite to criticize someone, so how are they ever going to know? W

[Tango-L] Not dancing with the music

The majority of tango dancers I see on the dance floor in Montreal are not dancing with the music. Is it the same in other cities? Every now and then I see a musicality course offered. Do ballroom tango dancers need musicality courses? Do any other kind of dancer need musicality courses? I

[Tango-L] How to make a Wed. night bar milonga successful

Lois Donnay writes: >What are some of the things that you have seen to make a >mid-week milonga better attended? For over 15 years, the place to tango on Wednesday nights in Montreal has been Studio Tango. It started out as a practice night in a converted railroad flat. It was so narrow that

[Tango-L] The tango walk.

A long time ago, a dance teacher told me I should walk like a cat. What the hell did that mean? I guess like this: http://i.imgur.com/EPc3H.gif :-) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] Why is it so hard to walk?

Eero Olli writes: >Some men have hard time converting the music to weight >shift. They hear the rhythm (they can clap it) but they >are not able to figure out where their body should be >during the beat. If you do a clapping exercise in a group, it doesn't mean that these men can hear the rhyt

[Tango-L] Why is it so hard to walk?

One person writes: >no cross-body-motion when they walk And another person writes: >so we have to learn to walk in counterposcione I think you're refering to CBM and CBMP. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra_body_movement . ___ Tango-L mailing li

[Tango-L] marketing survey

meaning of life wrote: >here were the responses, in no particular order: > >1) icky music >2) boring >3) don't like to dance with people i don't know or don't >like >4) stinky old men I thought that the same criticisms could be laid against ballroom, but meaning of life emailed me to say that hi

[Tango-L] marketing survey

meaning of life writes: >i believe that somewhere in these responses are the answers to many of the >questions that have been asked in the past ie: why no men? retention? no >young dancers? Tango doesn't appeal to everybody. If you want young men you can get them. You need to know where to loo

[Tango-L] A Training Scale

Lisa Battan writes: >I want my partner to be musical (rhythmic), relaxed, >forward thinking, clear and energetic in his movements, >grounded, connected and dynamic (to name a few). This is a nice list to start off with, but not exactly what I had in mind when I asked what you want people to do.

[Tango-L] Using the social dance as THE model

Mario writes: >In this video we see two very experienced and capable >social dancers I find it interesting that after he does 6-7-8 of the basic, the next step is a back step. I also find it interesting that he sometimes takes three back steps. While some people might dislike the back step,

[Tango-L] A Training Scale

Lisa Battan writes: >The skills are rhythm, relaxation (or suppleness), contact >(which I think many people refer to as connection in >tango), impulsion (which could be forward movement, >correct use of the joints and muscles and focusing of the >mind), How can you tell if the horse is focusin

[Tango-L] The Basics

Jack writes: >Are you serious or is that written toungue-in-cheek? I see I've confused you. By milonga rules I mean milonga code. The code is a code of conduct -- rules of behavior. You don't walk up to a girl and verbally ask her to dance; you use la mirada, the look. There have been sever

[Tango-L] Basics.

Michael writes: >Her foot moves first to establish support for her weight >after she steps. Yes. First the foot, then the body. >women have to bend their knees so the free foot will move >backward as far as possible. Not quite. Move the hip back to extend the reach of the foot. >I need the

[Tango-L] The Basics

Sergio lists a bunch of things he considers basic but doesn't give consequences resulting from the lack of these things. If I suffer no negative consequences from not knowing the ocho cortado, then I don't need to know the ocho cortado. His list includes: > Navigation of the floor. Milonga co

[Tango-L] Basics

Sherrie writes: >If you are not taught ... proper foot placement, good >walking, a firm embrace, you will not be able to be lead >well. What is the difference between proper and improper foot placement? Good and bad walking? How do I tell if my embrace is not firm enough? Too firm? Just ri

[Tango-L] Basics.

Loisa writes: >Bring in traveling teachers who insistently teach solid, >clean basics! What are these solid, clean basics? What are the consequences of not being able to do these basics? ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailma

[Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?

You were dancing ballroom when you saw an Argentine tango demo and you thought that Argentine tango was much more spectacular. And then you made friends in the tango crowd. Twenty years ago you saw the show Tango Argentino in San Francisco and swore to yourself that you'd learn how to do that.

Re: [Tango-L] Tango Scores

>Just wondering, without checking the scores, is it possible to recognise the >difference between 4x4 and 4x8? No. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] Dame la lata

OK, it's been pointed out you have to log in first. Go to http://grupos.emagister.com/ for Email use: b122...@tyldd.com for Contrasena use: bugmenot click on Acceder then go to http://grupos.emagister.com/ficheros/vcruzada?idGrupo=1542&idFichero=105073 look for the box with the orange a

Re: [Tango-L] Dame la lata

OK, I guess I should explain how to download the MP3 file of "Dame la lata." On the page at http://grupos.emagister.com/ficheros/vcruzada?idGrupo=1542&idFichero=105073 you'll see a box with an orange arrow pointing down. In the box are a bunch of words ending with "click aqui" in blue. Cli

[Tango-L] Dame la lata

John Ward writes: >Do any recordings exist of "Dame la Lata?" http://grupos.emagister.com/ficheros/vcruzada?idGrupo=1542&idFichero=105073 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] Milonga, etc.

Keith writes: >Remember: there are no singers/lyrics until 40 or 50 years >later (from the beginnings). The earliest known tango is "Dame la lata" by Juan Perez. It was written around 1880 or in the 1880's. It had lyrics. According to your assertion, tango music existed in 1840 and nobody

[Tango-L] Lots of questions

Pat Petronio writes: >As a woman in tango, the feeling of being transported in >the dance is absolutely the result of quality of movement, >and my partner's connection with me & the music What is good quality movement? What is bad quality movement? How can you tell if your own movement is hi

[Tango-L] Head Tilt

Larry de Los Angeles writes: >How do we learn not to tilt our heads? By not looking at your feet. If you watch a guy dancing apilado, with contact at the head, chest, and (optionally) belly, you'll notice that he's not looking at his feet. Well, he can't. The girl's in the way. In most c

Re: [Tango-L] A lot can happen within a dance.

Mario writes: >It's a mixed practica ... >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdDZwdVPkQQ What I like about this video is that they're moving around in a circle, respecting the beat of the music (not rushing it), not bumping into each other, and not looking at their feet. The teacher charges 12 mango

[Tango-L] Embrace and musicality in Buenos Aires.

Over the years, tangueras returning from Buenos Aires raved about the Porteno tangueros. They said that the Portenos lead easy steps, used a secure and passionate embrace, and displayed wonderful musicality. As a friend of mine was gushing about the Portenos' embrace, I asked her why she didn't s

[Tango-L] Questions about couples' milongas.

At milongas for couples (e.g.: Sunderland), do they chat at the beginning of the song? Do they clear the dance floor during the cortina? If they clear the floor, and they want to dance the next tanda, where do they go? Back to their seats/bench?

[Tango-L] Is Bahia Blanca played at traditional milongas?

A friend on mine told me that at traditional Buenos Aires milongas where the older dancers go (i.e.: not La Viruta) the DJs don't play Di Sarli's Bahia Blanca except for exhibitions. Is it true that the DJs don't play it? If true, why?

[Tango-L] Is swing a traveling dance in Bs. As.?

I had always thought that swing was a stationary dance but this video of swing at the Sunderland clearly shows a traveling dance . Is this the general case in Buenos Aires? What about salsa? Is salsa a traveling dance in Buenos Aires?

[Tango-L] For Mario

Mario asks for a description of the first 13 steps or so in a Youtube video entitled "Noelia Hurtado & Pablo Rodriguez en Practica X." This is the first time I've analyzed a video. Time 22 sec. Steps 1, 2, 3.) Man: Left side, right close, left forward to the closed side (man's right, woman's left)

[Tango-L] How do people say disociacio'n in English?

Do tango teachers say dissociation or disassociation or something else? What are "over-turned ochos" and "leg wraps" in Spanish? How do Porten~os pronounce "giro?" Is the "g" pronounced as an "h" or as a "j?" What about the "g" in "Argentino/a?" ___

[Tango-L] If not thinking

Mario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I have been told by one teacher "What do you care >about where the woman's feet are?" Who said this and why did he say it? Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-a

[Tango-L] Learning Tango

Mario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >been often seduced by such topics as [...] >navigation .. none of which ever produced anything >valuable. See . Defensive dancing is a lot like defensive driving: travel at the same speed as the fl

[Tango-L] Last tango in Bs. As.

I've been told that traditionally the last song played at a milonga in Buenos Aires is La Cumpasita. A friend of mine, a retiree who has traveled to Bs. As. several times, staying there months on end, said that this is not so. I don't know how often he stayed to the very end. To the people in Bs

[Tango-L] tango/milonga/tango

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Another example is the famous Villoldo song "El >Porten~ito." D'Arienzo and others play it as a >tango but D'Agostino plays it as a milonga (it's >listed as a tango/milonga on his CD). If you're referring to track 19 of "Tangos de los Angels vol. 1" on the Tango Arg