[Tango-L] comic pearls and golden silence

2008-05-23 Thread desdelasnubes
"A pearl before the swine" was the name of a recent thread. I must admit I have never heard of any tango songs talking about casting pearls before the swine (and I sure do know many songs), but the title of the thread did not give me any clue to a possible tango connection. So in the begi

[Tango-L] Roberto Di Chiara

2008-05-17 Thread desdelasnubes
I have received a message by a friend informing that Roberto di Chiara passed away on May 15th in Buenos Aires. The cable channel where he was working (C5N) is going to air an homage to Roberto Di Chiara in the show he was producing at the time of his death. http://www.infobae.com/c5n/index.

Re: [Tango-L] Ladies leading

2008-05-06 Thread desdelasnubes
Some leading ladies give proof that the world is more complex than simplistic minds adhering to x-y-chromosom- theory might suggest ;) Are there some ladies that lead better than some men do - YES! There are a lucky few that can lead better than a vaste majority of men. As a follower I do not

Re: [Tango-L] Do I have to invent every step of the d ance, even her's ???

2008-04-04 Thread desdelasnubes
> As for your swearing at a lady ... well, I guess we had different upbringings. > Keith, thank you very much for this reminder on respectful behaviour. Seems as if such a reminder is needed, because the swearing seems to have been overlooked by previous posters. So, dear gentlemen, if you e

[Tango-L] Ecstasis and Control

2008-03-30 Thread desdelasnubes
Dear Mr. Stradivarius > We don't have many Strads in Buffalo... > But the top two or three were first taught by me. Reading your many postings on ecstasis and control I have come to understand that among "old violins" you have but a few so called "Strads" that your maestro teaching has help t

[Tango-L] Dancing after accident

2008-03-04 Thread desdelasnubes
Dear list, last week I had an accident. It happened in the early morning after a most wonderful memorable night of dancing. The next morning I almost hit a speedy car that suddenly crossed my pedestrian way. Now I can but hop on one leg with the help of crutches. I can't walk the stairs. The li

[Tango-L] women as leader

2008-02-29 Thread desdelasnubes
Dyane, IMO there is no need to find a regular partner, rather the contrary. I would not use the expression "really work hard at developing very good following skills" either, because I don't consider dancing as a follower a hard work, I'd rather say it's more soft skills;) I think the best teac

Re: [Tango-L] No dancing before the music

2008-02-22 Thread desdelasnubes
Ron wrote: > Argentine tango (a redundant phrase, because tango is Argentine) If you advocate for understanding the culture of tango in the place of its origin keep in mind that there is also a term called "tango rioplatense" which includes Montevideo/Uruguay ;) For the rest I agree - the dance

[Tango-L] No dancing before the music

2008-02-20 Thread desdelasnubes
Janis, I like your lucid statement about instant gratification as way of life and lacking patience and time to get acquaintened and intimate with the music. In a competitive society many dancers ambitiously strive for quick success and technical accomplishment and they might succeed in performin

Re: [Tango-L] tango in movies

2008-02-17 Thread desdelasnubes
> "Tale of Tales" by Yuri Norstein ("Skazka Skazok", USSR, 1979). > Few movies express the soul of tango as well as this little gem. Thank you for the Tales of Tales video, Oleh. The tango was originally composed by Jerzy Petersburgski in 1933 with the title “Ta ostatnia niedziela”. (This last

Re: [Tango-L] Please don't help me!

2008-02-16 Thread desdelasnubes
Hi Tim, helpful followers are bred in class teaching where patterns are taught and/or where beginners dance with beginners. Helpful followers might be blessed with a good memory, they can remember the combinations taught more quickly and lasting than the lead. So they easily internalize pattern

[Tango-L] "Funniest Tango Video" certainly educational....

2008-02-02 Thread desdelasnubes
Dan wrote: > The video is not beautiful but certainly educational. Abusive?? I really > don't see > it. Metin has an aggressive personality and it pervades his teaching > style. If you want a soft fuzzy type of teacher, don't attend his workshops. [...] I would describe what I saw on the v

Re: [Tango-L] metin video

2008-01-27 Thread desdelasnubes
--- Mario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do women put up with this..are they all masochists ?? > ...and then she smiles and laughs incredulously?? duh > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8jgnvrTxl4&feature=related You can tell by her laughter that she is deeply embarassed. "They" are not all

[Tango-L] Krasimir vs anticipation...

2008-01-23 Thread desdelasnubes
>I am desperate, and I don't think anyone can help, it is the job of the >follower to stop guessing and anticipating - the correct technique is in >place to make the movement the right way, but she's simply not using it. The >second she "decides" to do something, she just ignores the skills I t

[Tango-L] Last tango in Bs. As. - las damas del tango

2008-01-21 Thread desdelasnubes
> Edgardo Donato + Lita Morales "Triqui-tri" http://tinyurl.com/2teqrh > If anyone knows to buy a full-quality copy of this, please tell! I think it's to be found on: Las Damas del Tango 1909-1946 My question to the list: why are las damas del tango so neglected by the DJ's in the milongas? Wh

[Tango-L] the first person to choreograph

2008-01-20 Thread desdelasnubes
..." the first person to choreograph Argentine Tango for professional dancers on the stage." ..." the fist film ever devoted to the tango was called "El tango de la muerte (1917)". It makes me wonder where authors derive the self-certain confidence from for statements on the first origins. I

Re: [Tango-L] Gender Imbalance

2008-01-04 Thread desdelasnubes
> "Sitting in one spot all night" thing. WHERE you sit is supremely > important. At any venue there will be predominate traffic flows - to and > from: the front door, the bathroom, the dancefloor, and the food, as Trini > pointed out. Women who want to dance, do well to put themselves in or n

Re: [Tango-L] Brainstorming

2007-12-27 Thread desdelasnubes
> So far: > "baby on a swing" - excellent ! A follower, by Tango for Her. > "painter and his brush" - leader and follower, by Tango For Her > "musician and violin" - leader and follower, by Igor Polk< In your inventory of poetic imagery you seem to have forgotten the broom: > 3. You dance

Re: [Tango-L] tell me why someone can not stand compa rison of a dancer to a musical instrument

2007-12-23 Thread desdelasnubes
Dear Nancy, Astrid, buffmilonguera, Trini, thank you all for your helpful postings that seem to already have produced effect by raising the level of sensitivity on this list. It might have a wonderful effect on the dancing, too. Maybe we can keep in our generous minds that males often have this

Re: [Tango-L] pseudo-milongueros, time machine, e xtinction of milonguerAs, Marketing of Apocalyptic Tang o

2007-12-18 Thread desdelasnubes
Burak wrote: >A milonguero by himself is nothing, he gets his > power and charisma from his partner. However, from the marketing agents of > so-called tango milonguero thing, Milonguera has no value, they just host > milongas, everything is Milonguero, women have to dance with them to "feel", > the

[Tango-L] Franelear -- have you tried it?

2007-12-11 Thread desdelasnubes
Janis and Trini, I'm not sure what is meant by "franelear" and "franela". This might be partially due to the fact that neither Spanish nor English are my native languages. As I understood there are milongueros in BA ready to provide explanations or even hands-on experience on this matter. But as

Re: [Tango-L] 4 videos. A little statistics???

2007-12-09 Thread desdelasnubes
> I'd like to point your attention to little statistics [...] > So if we assign numbers of dancers it will be something like this( very > roughly: ) > 1000 > 1000 > 10 > 1000 > > Please, I do not make any conclusions. Just pointing your attention. > Otherwise someone outside might be confused.

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality - what is it?

2007-12-06 Thread desdelasnubes
> Perhaps rhetorical questions. > What is average number of years you critics of musicality classes have been > dancing tango? Number of hours you have spent listening to tango? I doubt that numbers matter. Not the numbers of years and not the number of classes. I guess it is all individual.

Re: [Tango-L] Musicality. What is it?

2007-12-06 Thread desdelasnubes
> unconscious, straight from the > heart without thinking musicality you can dance with if > you know the song intimately. musicality, straight from the heart, thank you, Huck. As a follower it is wonderful to feel the intimacy with the music AND the embrace AND to feel the intimacy of the lead

[Tango-L] tango movies (formerly I wanna buy a tango book)

2007-12-04 Thread desdelasnubes
> Incidentally, I also wanted to ask what are people's favourite tango movies > and documentaries. These are the tango films that I like a lot: Sur, Argentina 1988. Director: Fernando Solanas, Music: Astor Piazolla, Roberto Goyeneche The plot: In 1983, at the end of military dictatorship in A

[Tango-L] Russian Waltz (vals)

2007-10-29 Thread desdelasnubes
> Does anyone know a different source of this song, > or similar Russian waltz songs used often in milongas? "My sweet and tender beast" is from the Soviet Film Moj laskovyj i nezhnyj zver (Soviet Union 1978), adaptation of a Story by Anton Chekhov composer Evgenyj Doga http://www.imdb.com/title