Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-19 Thread dchester
--- >From: Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads >To: tango-l@mit.edu >Hahahahahahahaha, Felix, Steve, Anton, Jay - you guys are even more uptight >than >I could ever have imagined. >You obviously don'

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-18 Thread Keith
t: > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tango-l@mit.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 >> 21:19:19 -0400> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads> > Hey Steve,> > If you can't answer the question, just say so. You sound like yet another guy> who l

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-15 Thread steve pastor
CTED]> To: tango-l@mit.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:19:19 > -0400> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads> > Hey Steve,> > > If you can't answer the question, just say so. You sound like yet another > guy> who likes to talk-the-talk but can

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-13 Thread Jay Rabe
My personal approach is "don't feed the trolls." That is, don't respond, and I frankly haven't opened an email from Keith UK in weeks. J > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: tango-l@mit.edu > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:56:30 +0000 > Subject: Re:

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-13 Thread Felix Delgado
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tango-l@mit.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:19:19 > -0400> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads> > Hey Steve,> > > If you can't answer the question, just say so. You sound like yet another > guy> who

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-13 Thread Keith
Hey Steve, If you can't answer the question, just say so. You sound like yet another guy who likes to talk-the-talk but can't walk-the-walk. Tango is full of them' And thanks for reminding me what I wrote to Jeff - same thing hold for you Steve. A Tango Man's motto should be - NEVER BLAME THE

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-13 Thread steve pastor
Keith: If you seriously wish to engage in discussions with people in this forum, you might want to avoid replies such as this one, which you posted recently. "Of course, Jeff, I'm sure the reason couldn't possibly be your poor leading. Personally, I've never had a woman ... "automatic

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-13 Thread Keith
Can we be a little bit more specific here. Steve, if the girl can walk and do Ochos and Giros, just what are you leading that they don't know what to do? Especially after a couple of attempts. Keith, HK On Sat Oct 13 5:28 , steve pastor sent: > > "Why aren't they becoming more skilled?"

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-12 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Sorry, Igor, but that's bull. And it's an easy excuse women use (I need a partner to get good, etc). Women have to take responsibility for themselves. It's not necessary for men to be at a higher level than they are for women to improve, either. Women do need to dance with higher level leaders,

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-12 Thread Igor Polk
"Why aren't they ( ladies) becoming more skilled?" That is exactly my point - because there are very few leaders with whom they are able to become more skilled. Forget about women technique workshops, ladies, if you do not have men able to lead you to it ! WE NEED GOOD MEN IN TANGO ! Igor Polk

Re: [Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-12 Thread steve pastor
"So if you guys have all these wonderful leaders, why aren't the women picking up on this? Why aren't they becoming more skilled? Do the guys not want to dance with women who they think do not meet their criteria to dance with them? Are the guys not as good as they think they are? " L

[Tango-L] Ocho queens-bad leads-good leads

2007-10-11 Thread Deby Novitz
How can anyone ever attempt to resolve this thread on a computer list? Completely ridiculous. This is an example of what drives me crazy about this list. You can have both sides. In classes when I teach, there are women who go into the cross whether they are led or not. Why? Because some