On 12/06/10 00:46, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote:
> Thanks for clarifying, Myk. Yet it strikes me that people like to
> dance to these alternative music that has this same boring repetitive
> rhythm and call it tango. Well, the dance, anyway though not the
> music. I haven't listened closely too
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Myk Dowling wrote:
A
> rhythm is a pattern of strong and weak beats overlaying the
> basic time
> signature. And that's the difference between tango and
> other dance
> music. Other dance music has a specific rhythm that must be
> followed for
> the dance to fit. Tango
However, the wording of your original post implies that the rhythmic
pattern does not necessarily have to adhere to a pattern that we would
recognize as tango.
Trini de Pittsburgh
I'm not criticising Joaquin; he is making a truly heroic effort to
define something that is very nebulous.
Myk,
in
On 11/06/10 10:24, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote:
> Let me try to clarify. If a tango melody played straight through to a
> specific rhythm of 1-3-1-&3-4, for example, just to pull some numbers
> out of the air, wouldn't it still be a tango, even if the rhythm is
> repetitive? Or are you saying
On 11/06/10 08:16, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote:
> But, Myk, would it be wrong, though, for a tango to have a specific rhythm?
> It could be very boring, but couldn't it still be defined as a tango? It
> strikes me that older pieces would have had a repetitive structure.
>
It's not that it wo
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From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
To: "Tango-L"
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Recognizing Tango Music
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Myk Dowling wrote:
> (PATangoS) wrote:
> > But, Myk, would it be wrong, though, for a tan
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Myk Dowling wrote:
> (PATangoS) wrote:
> > But, Myk, would it be wrong, though, for a tango to
> have a specific rhythm? It could be very boring, but
> couldn't it still be defined as a tango? It strikes me
> that older pieces would have had a repetitive structure.
> >
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Myk Dowling wrote:
Ah, but Trini, the difference is that La Cumparsita has been forced to
comply to a rock rhythm, rather than having the free rhythmic structure
of a tango. As soon as you bind it to a specific rhythm, you break the
tango.
But, Myk, would it be wrong,
On 10/06/10 10:47, Tango22 wrote:
> Listen to any classic instrumental Tango. It is played in parts
> (typically a Rondo of A-B-A-C-A) . Each part has a particular melody,
> typically, but not always, of 4 melodic phrases, hat distinguishes it
> from the other parts. So each phrase has a length
On 10/06/10 12:41, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote:
> I'm not questioning that there's a change in the pattern in the phrases.
> However, the wording of your original post implies that the rhythmic pattern
> does not necessarily have to adhere to a pattern that we would recognize as
> tango. Tha
I'm not questioning that there's a change in the pattern in the phrases.
However, the wording of your original post implies that the rhythmic pattern
does not necessarily have to adhere to a pattern that we would recognize as
tango. That is my interpretation, anyway. I have, for example, hear
From: "Trini y Sean \(PATangoS\)"
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Recognizing Tango Music
Each phrase has its own accents?according to the melody, so the rhythm
of tango is not a fixed?rhythmic pattern anymore
I don't think that's entirely accurate.
Trini de Pittsburgh
L
On 10/06/10 04:28, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) wrote:
> One thing he says about the accompaniment is that it is a consequence of the
> melody. Thus, if someone called him and said that he had written a typical
> waltz but needed an accompaniment, Salgan could basically whip it up without
> hearing
I am looking through the first few chapters of Horatio Salgan's course on tango
that I was able to purchase through Ben Bogart's efforts a few months ago.
Salgan says a few interesting things about the accompaniment of the tango. By
accompaniment, he's referring, I think, to "the harmonic bac
Add in the booklet by Lucio J. Bruno-Videla included with the 3CD set "One
Century and a bonus. A history of tango" by Leonardo Marconi Quinteto & guests,
particularly on the structure.
> Joaquin Amenabar in his book "Tango, Let's Dance to the Music"
> describes modern Tango as having two ele
I don't think that's entirely accurate. For example, if the rhythmic pattern
consistently emphasized the 3rd beat over the 1st beat, you'd get rock 'n roll.
I would say that tango needs a predominate emphasis on the 1st beat. There
could be an emphasis on another beat, but it's used for varia
From: Shahrukh Merchant
Subject: Recognizing Tango Music
"What makes Tango music Tango music?"
Joaquin Amenabar in his book "Tango, Let's Dance to the Music"
describes modern Tango as having two elements, a basic four-beat count
and a melodic phrase with its own rhythmic accents that are not
My Sony Ericson mobile (cell) phone has a music identification program on
it. It categorises the tango music I have on it into 4 quadrants that
progressively range from zero to Happy, Sad, Fast and Slow. Sometimes, if I
am wanting to listen to happier music I will use the program and move the
c
"What makes Tango music Tango music?"
Since there is a reasonable combination on Tango-L of musician types,
computer science AI types, Tango DJ types and others who know Tango
music in some depth, and of course dancers most of whom "recognize Tango
music when they hear it," I thought I'd pose t
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