Re: [Tango-L] cabaceo/rejection

2010-10-28 Thread Vince Bagušauskas
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:42:08 -0700 From: dblioness2...@yahoo.com To: luffth...@peoplepc.com CC: tango-l@mit.edu Subject: Re: [Tango-L] cabaceo/rejection First of all, I'm not sure you should generalize, there, TT. (Apparently, you have

[Tango-L] cabaceo/rejection

2010-10-27 Thread dierdre black
At the expense of sounding arrogant/snobby.I have found if I am more discriminating and patient in choosing whom I will accept as my tango partners(ignoring some cabaceos by looking under the table for some lint, whatever), I have more than enough dances; avoid being a wallflower and in

Re: [Tango-L] Cabaceo SAYING NO

2010-10-20 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Trini, here. --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Balazs Gyenis gy...@hps.elte.hu wrote: . This made me think about how they could handle the problem and tried to come up with a solution which (a) could plausibly reduce refusal stress, Stress is a result of feeling a lack of control. Give a person a sense

Re: [Tango-L] Cabaceo SAYING NO

2010-10-19 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Sean here. I should know better, but here are a few of my thoughts on the subject. --- Patricia Katz wrote: I see many leaders with very good potential stay at a level that is below their ability; these leaders don't take workshops or privates when very good teachers are in town. It seems most

Re: [Tango-L] Cabaceo SAYING NO

2010-10-19 Thread Balazs Gyenis
As for this whole card/cabaceo issue, I wonder if it is all over a single girl who can't say no? Gosh, how naive I was to think we managed to close this part of the discussion. No, if you want to point fingers, point towards me. I can't count the times I've heard followers complaining about

Re: [Tango-L] Cabaceo SAYING NO

2010-10-19 Thread Jack Dylan
- Original Message From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com From Sean.   These women need a serious reality check about their own abilities. Agree. Many beginner ladies can get dances with good leaders and they soon have an inflated sense of their own ability. Thereafter,

[Tango-L] cabaceo

2010-10-18 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
Jack Dyland wrote: I've never been rejected since because, if the girl doesn't want to dance with me, she won't make eye-contact. That's the beauty of the cabeceo for the man?- no more rejections. What do you call it when you cababceo the woman, she meets your eyes and painfully slowly

[Tango-L] Cabaceo SAYING NO

2010-10-17 Thread Patricia Katz
A woman who is good also needs to understand that she will have a big effect in influencing the quality of the men's dancing in her community. If she expects them to come up to her standard. If she doesn't lower her own. She needs to be the muse. If she wants to help the men in the community

[Tango-L] Cabaceo the no

2010-10-17 Thread Patricia Katz
The question is: how does a follower convey to a leader that the no doesn't mean forever, but means that when this particular leader improves then she will accept his invitation, whether by cabaceo or a direct verbal invitation? A cabaceo doesn't address this problem. The no doesn't necessarily