Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-17 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
At end of the day, it's still my responsibility as a parent to get my kids educated, regardless of the environment. People can look at environmental issues as challenges to overcome. People have come from difficult backgrounds to rise about environmental difficulties. Trini de Pittsburgh --

Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-17 Thread Balazs Gyenis
> The real issue, here, is that your friend doesn’t seem to respect herself to > tell a man “no”. Thanks Trini. I'm sure these are all good advices, although they sound to me a bit disconcerting in this context. An analogy may help. Suppose you bring your children to a new school. As it turns

Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-17 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Balazs, please feel free to share this post with your tanguera friend(s). The real issue, here, is that your friend doesn’t seem to respect herself to tell a man “no”. Argentine tangueras do not use the cabeceo to hide behind. They are aggressive in using it. Many men have told me that they

Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-16 Thread Jack Dylan
- Original Message > From: Tine Herreman tang...@tangomuse.com   > In the US, the cabeceo is in the interest *only* of dancers who want > to decline invitations. >  Is that true? I'm sure that the cabeceo was invented in Argentina, not for the benefit of the lady, but for the men to avo

Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-16 Thread Balazs Gyenis
Thanks, Tine. I agree with everything you said. > Handing somebody such an explanation card sounds like handing somebody > a mint. It probably means something. Indeed, and that is the point. > people are aware of it, example will make it spread. But only a subset > of the population will ever

Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-16 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Excellent post, Tine.  And accurate, based on my observations. Trini de Pittsburgh   ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-16 Thread Tine Herreman
Hi all Handing somebody such an explanation card sounds like handing somebody a mint. It probably means something. I think it should sit on the tables (just like the mints). Or maybe the organizer should include it with the announcements. Having people practice the cabeceo on waiters/waitresses wh

Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-13 Thread Jack Dylan
- Original Message > From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) > > Chances are the good leaders and followers in a community already >know about the cabeceo and use it in addition to asking.  I don't think >it would be right to ask them to use it exclusively ... > In milongas outside of BsAs, I

Re: [Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-13 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
Sounds like an unnecessary waste of paper and a way of making the cabeceo seem more exotic than it really is.  Why doesn't the woman just tell the man after the tanda?  The good leaders will also tell you that it's often the women who need to be handed the cards.  I suppose she could always put

[Tango-L] introducing the cabeceo (card)

2010-10-13 Thread Balazs Gyenis
Hi all, Q: Do people here have experience about instituting the cabeceo to tango communities where it is practically nonexistent? Any strategies that work? I would be curious to hear about implementation successes and failures. It is not obvious how such a shift could be orchestrated e