Re: [VOTE] Brian K. Wallace as Tapestry Committer

2006-03-20 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) On 3/21/06, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brian K. Wallace is an established presence on the Tapestry user and > developer mailing list. He's answers questions on the user list, > participates in design discussions and

Re: [VOTE] Andreas Andreou as Tapestry committer

2006-03-10 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) On 3/11/06, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andreas has been a very active tapestry user for a long time now, as well > as > more or less taking the lead role lately on the tacos project. I've been > very impressed with his

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry TLP

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) On 1/31/06, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Below is the final text of the vote; for the moment, I've pencilled in > myself as the chair, as no one else was in a position to take that > responsibility. If you disagree, vo

Re: [VOTE] 4.0 final release

2006-01-02 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) On 12/31/05, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think 4.0 is ready for a wider release and a new release > announcement to ring in 2006. I know I'm anxious to start putting > together 4.1 features. The most critical missi

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 4.0-rc-1

2005-12-04 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > By the time this vote ends, we'll have some kind of fix for > TAPESTRY-724. I think, with that, Tapestry 4.0 is ready for prime > time. We've already had the discussion of outstanding bugs needing > fixing. I t

Re: [VOTE] Kent Tong as Tapestry Committer

2005-11-23 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Kent Tong has been a great booster for Tapestry over the last year or two; not only has he been a constant presense on the mailing list, mentoring new and experienced users, as well as contributing bugs and patches ... but he's wr

Re: [VOTE] Jesse Kuhnert as Tapestry committer

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Jesse Kuhnert has been doing some outstanding work with Tacos (http://tacos.sf.net), powerful Ajax components for Tapestry. Further, he's been very active on the mailing lists, providing support to new users and to Tacos users

Re: Feedback

2005-09-12 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
I too say deprecate. Geoff Longman wrote: Umm, they still work right? Pls tell me they still work. Some of us have very large Tap 3 apps and if we don't have to port every page to the new validation scheme at once that would be very nice. I say deprecate. Geoff On 9/12/05, David Solis <[EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Regular beta releases

2005-09-08 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Howard Lewis Ship wrote: As per the ongoing discussion, this is a vote to introduce a new procedure: regular weekly beta releases until Tapestry 4.0 is ready for release. I will take primary responsibility for producing the release and the release announcements

Re: [DISCUSS] Regular beta releases?

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
+1 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: I'm quite willing to crank out a new beta release every weekend for the next few weeks ... but running a vote for each one is time consuming and boring. How about a general vote to release on a weekly basis until we vote for an RC candidate? ---

Re: ButtonLinkRenderer to contrib

2005-08-29 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
I would prefer the reverse - move the other renderers out of contrib and into org.apache.tapestry.link. I don't like 'contrib'. It feels somehow second-class to me, and I'd generally like to see code in contrib either dumped, or moved to the framework proper. Paul Ferraro wrote: Would anyone

Re: Eclipse org.eclipse.jdt.core.prefs

2005-08-24 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
I prefer them to be errors. Warnings are too easy to ignore, even when there are only a few of them... Paul Ferraro wrote: But they are not errors... I'd rather be able to easily identify compilation errors than identify warnings. e.g. I had to revert the compiler warning settings so that I c

Re: [VOTE] Release Tapestry 4.0-beta-5

2005-08-24 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Release early; release often. Lots of good fixes here, and I like releasing a beta every week or so. Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 4.0-beta-4

2005-08-09 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Since we've found and fixed a couple of real show-stopper bugs in beta-3, and its been a couple of weeks, I'd like to release beta-4. Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 --

Re: [DISCUSS] Remove initialize()

2005-07-28 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Seems like a good idea to me. Do we have an agreed on definition of what 'beta' means? We decided this was version 4 because it was a big change, and keeping backwards compatability was not always going to be possible. I see no need to cling to this confusing/frustrating part of Tapestry in

Re: [VOTE] Remove default-binding

2005-07-27 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Howard Lewis Ship wrote: OK ... this discussion has gone on long enough. I'm willing to strip out the default-binding stuff and replace it with a simpler approach. Attributes will be intepreted as literals (unless prefixed) in the template, and as

Re: How to reach concensus w.r.t. default-binding?

2005-07-27 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Sold! This is the best argument so far (IMO). Informal bindings HAVE to be literal in templates, which means only confusion if formal parameters in the template have ANY other default. Making specification bindings use literal by default will just be painful to work with (too many "ognl:"s)

Re: [VOTE] Remove default-binding

2005-07-27 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/decisions.html Kevin Menard wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but how does the whole voting thing work anyway? Do only developers get to vote? Are the votes just -1, 0, +1? Thanks, Kevin Howard Lewis Ship wrote: OK ... this discussion has gone on long enough. I'm w

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 4.0-beta-3

2005-07-21 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Fantastic work (as always)... Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Things have been cranking along, and we have a number of important fixes out there, and likely more by the time this vote completes. Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1

Re: [VOTE] Convert Tapestry to Subversion

2005-07-10 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
I appreciate that there is an ASF directive to move by the end of the year, but I think we should wait till nearer the end of the year. Richard Lewis-Shell: -1 Richard Lewis-Shell wrote: My preference would be to wait until 4.0 final is out, and IDE support improves. Richard Lewis-Shel

Re: [VOTE] Release 4.0-beta-2

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Release early, release often. Let's do a short vote and release beta-2 as soon as possible. Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [VOTE] Convert Tapestry to Subversion

2005-06-28 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
My preference would be to wait until 4.0 final is out, and IDE support improves. Richard Lewis-Shell: -0 Richard Lewis-Shell wrote: Can someone with subversion experience comment on the level of IDE integration subversion enjoys, especially with Eclipse? If it's not going to be any h

Re: [VOTE] Convert Tapestry to Subversion

2005-06-26 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Can someone with subversion experience comment on the level of IDE integration subversion enjoys, especially with Eclipse? If it's not going to be any harder to use via IDEs than CVS right now, then I'll be +0. Richard Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Worked great for HiveMind ! Howard M. Lewis Shi

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 4.0-beta-1

2005-06-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Howard Lewis Ship wrote: I know this is unusual, but I'd like to make a vote pending some other developments. I'm anxious to announce beta-1 when I'm at JavaOne. There are a couple of changes "in the queue" by various committers; I

Re: Adding annotation support to Tapestry 4

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
speak. I felt inspiried this afternoon. It does mean compiling on JDK 1.5 to target JDK 1.1, and it also means we can't use commons-lang anymore (it has a package name thats illegal), so goodbye EnumPropertySelectionModel. On 6/8/05, Richard Lewis-Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Adding annotation support to Tapestry 4

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
sort of conditional compilation for the annotations. Richard Ron Piterman wrote: So why not vote on adding it as an (unmature) extention to the tapestry project? ציטוט Richard Lewis-Shell: Hi, I think we should add annotation support to Tapestry 4. The initial hard work has already been

Adding annotation support to Tapestry 4

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Hi, I think we should add annotation support to Tapestry 4. The initial hard work has already been done by Joni (http://paloalto.laughingpanda.com/mediawiki/index.php/Tapestry_Annotations), so this would mostly be a matter of merging his work (which has been deliberately compatibly licensed

Re: Workbench: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException,Could not find a strategy instance for class org.apache.hivemind.util.ContextResource.

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
tion of Resource to an AssetFactory that can provide a matching IAsset, from which a URL can be created. I'll look into it. On 5/21/05, Richard Lewis-Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm getting another error from the workbench. This time it's: Unable to instantiate com

Re: [VOTE] Remove default-binding

2005-05-29 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: -1 (binding) It is not clear to me that we have exhausted other possibilities to reduce confusion. Removing the feature seems pretty heavy handed. If it was deemed that defaults were not so good for the framework, then an alternative idea would be to make all framework

Re: [jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-336) Change default binding of "tag" parameter in Submit component to "literal"

2005-05-27 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
, including informal ones, were literal unless otherwise indicated. Some users have taken to *always* using a binding prefix - so it appears that this feature is not entirely successful since it's intent was to save keystrokes. Thoughts? Paul Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA) wrote: [

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-336) Change default binding of "tag" parameter in Submit component to "literal"

2005-05-26 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-336?page=comments#action_66425 ] Richard Lewis-Shell commented on TAPESTRY-336: -- I am not sure this is a good idea. All the time of time I have used tag I've used it to select a real o

Workbench: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException,Could not find a strategy instance for class org.apache.hivemind.util.ContextResource.

2005-05-20 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
I'm getting another error from the workbench. This time it's: Unable to instantiate component Home/$Border: Could not find a strategy instance for class org.apache.hivemind.util.ContextResource. component: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$Border] location: context:/Home.html, line 1 1 2

Re: Deprecating components

2005-05-18 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
en thinking about this too; including a deprecation service that would log the deprecation warnings ... but just once, so you don't get flooded. On 5/14/05, Jamie Orchard-Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like this idea. It would definitely be useful. Jamie On May 14, 2005, at 5:15 AM,

Re: LinkSubmit enhancement: (etc) when disabled?

2005-05-18 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
The "good reason" was probably one of compatibility/consistency with the (Bother link components. (B (BNick Westgate wrote: (B> Hi. (B> (B> A minor issue this, but I'm emboldened by the LinkSubmit jira mails. (B> (B> LinkSubmit renders as text when disabled, thus losing informal (B> para

Re: Duplicate users in JIRA

2005-05-15 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
g the underlying JIRA database directly. Paul Richard Lewis-Shell wrote: There's something weird with our JIRA user accounts - they appear to be duplicated. Howard commented to this effect when trying to give me access to JIRA. Erik, Paul, and myself show up twice in the assign users drop-down

Duplicate users in JIRA

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
There's something weird with our JIRA user accounts - they appear to be duplicated. Howard commented to this effect when trying to give me access to JIRA. Erik, Paul, and myself show up twice in the assign users drop-down list. Any ideas on how to fix? Richard Richard Lewis-Shell

[jira] Resolved: (TAPESTRY-325) Allow deferred listener for LinkSubmit

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-325?page=all ] Richard Lewis-Shell resolved TAPESTRY-325: -- Resolution: Fixed Fix Version: 4.0 > Allow deferred listener for LinkSub

[jira] Resolved: (TAPESTRY-326) Listener parameters for form submitting components

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-326?page=all ] Richard Lewis-Shell resolved TAPESTRY-326: -- Resolution: Fixed Fix Version: 4.0 > Listener parameters for form submitting compone

[jira] Assigned: (TAPESTRY-325) Allow deferred listener for LinkSubmit

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-325?page=all ] Richard Lewis-Shell reassigned TAPESTRY-325: Assign To: Richard Lewis-Shell (was: Richard Lewis-Shell) > Allow deferred listener for LinkSub

Re: [jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-331) Simplified insert binding template syntax

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
I don't much like this idea (-1). I agree that we don't need yet another way of declaring a component in a template, especially one that is completely different to the existing templating syntax. What happened to "less is more"? This feels like "more is less" to me :-( Richard Howard M. Lewi

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-306) LinkSubmit doesn't respect Form's DOM id

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-306?page=comments#action_65388 ] Richard Lewis-Shell commented on TAPESTRY-306: -- Looking at the 4.0 code, Form.getName() will include a call to getId() (for direct service anyway). getId

Deprecating components

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Hi, I am thinking it would be useful to add support to Tapestry for deprecating components, so that we can provide a clear migration path for changing components. It can imagine it would be useful to be able to deprecate an entire component and/or individual component parameters, and have Tape

[jira] Updated: (TAPESTRY-306) LinkSubmit doesn't respect Form's DOM id

2005-05-13 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-306?page=all ] Richard Lewis-Shell updated TAPESTRY-306: - Fix Version: 4.0 > LinkSubmit doesn't respect Form's DOM id > > >

[jira] Assigned: (TAPESTRY-306) LinkSubmit doesn't respect Form's DOM id

2005-05-13 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-306?page=all ] Richard Lewis-Shell reassigned TAPESTRY-306: Assign To: Richard Lewis-Shell > LinkSubmit doesn't respect Form's DOM id >

Re: Workbench working?

2005-05-13 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
is Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When was the last time you got from head? Also, I'm running using a Jetty Launch Config inside Eclipse ... I'll try using Ant in a moment. On 5/13/05, Richard Lewis-Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Is the workbench from HEAD working for yo

[jira] Assigned: (TAPESTRY-325) Allow deferred listener for LinkSubmit

2005-05-13 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-325?page=all ] Richard Lewis-Shell reassigned TAPESTRY-325: Assign To: Richard Lewis-Shell planning on refactoring Submit and LinkSubmit to share deferred listener + listener parameter code

Workbench working?

2005-05-13 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Is the workbench from HEAD working for you guys? It's not for me - appears the ValidField javascript is broken. The Fields tab doesn't work properly: the fields don't validate - neither client nor server side, and the LinkSubmit doesn't work (I think because the javascript is generally broken

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-306) LinkSubmit doesn't respect Form's DOM id

2005-05-13 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-306?page=comments#action_65281 ] Richard Lewis-Shell commented on TAPESTRY-306: -- What browsers/environments does this effect? Can you attach a patch, or explain the trivial fix

[jira] Assigned: (TAPESTRY-326) Listener parameters for form submitting components

2005-05-12 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-326?page=all ] Richard Lewis-Shell reassigned TAPESTRY-326: Assign To: Richard Lewis-Shell > Listener parameters for form submitting compone

Re: [VOTE] Release Tapestry 4.0-alpha-3

2005-05-12 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Although it hasn't been long since alpha-2, I'd like to release the next alpha of Tapestry 4.0. Why? A few things have settled down, some bugs have been fixed, a few really key features have been added, and I think the Portlet

[jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-326) Listener parameters for form submitting components

2005-05-11 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
Listener parameters for form submitting components -- Key: TAPESTRY-326 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-326 Project: Tapestry Type: Improvement Versions: 4.0 Reporter: Richard Lewis-Shell

[jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-325) Allow deferred listener for LinkSubmit

2005-05-11 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
Allow deferred listener for LinkSubmit -- Key: TAPESTRY-325 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-325 Project: Tapestry Type: Improvement Components: Framework Versions: 4.0 Reporter: Richard Lewis

JIRA permissions

2005-05-11 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Hi, Can someone here give me permissions to assign/resolve issues etc in JIRA for Tapestry? My userid is rlewisshell. Richard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Improved listeners can work for non-DirectLink componenets too (was Re: [jira] Closed: (TAPESTRY-166) Allow Submits to defer invoking their listener)

2005-05-11 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Ignore the suggestion to also incorporate this into ActionLink - this really only makes sense for components with deferable listeners. Why doesn't ActionLink have a deferrable listener? Probably because there isn't such a nice place to defer to - the Submit etc components live in a form so their l

Re: Improved listeners can work for non-DirectLink componenets too (was Re: [jira] Closed: (TAPESTRY-166) Allow Submits to defer invoking their listener)

2005-05-11 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Ignore the suggestion to also incorporate this into ActionLink - this really only makes sense for components with deferable listeners. Richard Lewis-Shell wrote: I've implemented this for Submit (really just to test the idea) and it seems to work. This is a little less radical than E

Re: Improved listeners can work for non-DirectLink componenets too (was Re: [jira] Closed: (TAPESTRY-166) Allow Submits to defer invoking their listener)

2005-05-11 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
easier to start with) Richard Richard Lewis-Shell wrote: This could also work for ActionLink too. I re-read the blog/thread on improved listener methods, and those changes seem to fit in with using immediate and deferred listeners to remember rewind state. So, let me firm this up a bit. Im

Re: Improved listeners can work for non-DirectLink componenets too (was Re: [jira] Closed: (TAPESTRY-166) Allow Submits to defer invoking their listener)

2005-05-11 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Imagine.html: click me Imagine this instead: click me This is how I've implemented this with my ParamLink/ParamService. I pass a Map with named key/value pairs as the first listener parameter. You win! Does that prevent informal parameters from being rendered as attributes? Richard -

Improved listeners can work for non-DirectLink componenets too (was Re: [jira] Closed: (TAPESTRY-166) Allow Submits to defer invoking their listener)

2005-05-10 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
that prefer named parameters, perhaps both could be implemented? Richard Richard Lewis-Shell wrote: When will a deferred listener be *constructed* (as oppsosed to invoked)? Immediately, or also deferred? I am hoping it is immediate. In previous Tapestry projects we have created wrappers

Re: [jira] Closed: (TAPESTRY-166) Allow Submits to defer invoking their listener

2005-05-09 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
When will a deferred listener be *constructed* (as oppsosed to invoked)? Immediately, or also deferred? I am hoping it is immediate. In previous Tapestry projects we have created wrappers for the submit components to implement this (using selected/tag), and have made use of a deferredListener

[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-166) Allow Submits to defer invoking their listener

2005-05-09 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-166?page=comments#action_64787 ] Richard Lewis-Shell commented on TAPESTRY-166: -- LinkSubmit? > Allow Submits to defer invoking their liste

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 4.0-alpha-2

2005-04-28 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 (binding) Brian K. Wallace wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 non-binding Howard Lewis Ship wrote: | Now that HiveMind 1.1 has entered beta, I believe it's time to release a new | alpha of Tapestry 4.0 (Picasso). This will give people a chance t

Re: Improved listener methods

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
What about if the syntax was: Then the method name is simply followed by an OGNL expression resulting in the list of parameters, so it'd be simpler to implement (I imagine), but perhaps not as clear as using ()s. Richard Erik Hatcher wrote: On Apr 14, 2005, at 6:43 PM, Jamie wrote: That's an in

Re: [VOTE] Tapestry Release Names

2005-04-04 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
I think this is more likely to complicate matters than simplify them. We'll still need to replace @since, we'll still need to plan which features go into which release, and we'll still have to consider the implications of making a release a .1 increment over a 1.0 - IMO these should happen up f

Re: Tapestry 4.0

2005-04-04 Thread Richard Lewis-Shell
3.5 or 4.0 would seem appropriate to me. So: +1 Howard Lewis Ship wrote: The sentiment of the community seems to be that the next major release of Tapestry (i.e., HiveMind infrastructure, Portlet support, etc.) is too different from Tapestry 3.0 to be called "Tapestry 3.1". This release will only