Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread thn
Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:37, Stefan Dorscht wrote: > Sending from Germany I had to use port 587 - it didn't work using port > 465 Port 587 works with STARTTLS and TLS works with 465. I am not sure why. What I do not like is Gmail obviously filters my emails to the list, so that I do n

Re[2]: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Sean Rima
Tony, Thursday, November 18, 2004, 11:00:29 PM, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Hello Sean, > A reminder of what Sean Rima on TBBETA typed on: > 18 November 2004 at 22:26:09 GMT + >> Never used gmail for tbbeta, well not got around to it yet :) I use it

Re: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Sean, A reminder of what Sean Rima on TBBETA typed on: 18 November 2004 at 22:26:09 GMT + > Never used gmail for tbbeta, well not got around to it yet :) I use it for > tbot :) Oh sorry, didn't notice that. You'll have to tell me som

Re[2]: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Sean Rima
Tony, Thursday, November 18, 2004, 10:05:56 PM, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Hello Sean, > A reminder of what Sean Rima on TBBETA typed on: > 18 November 2004 at 21:40:56 GMT + >> Well that is it, you have convinced us all :) > I see you stopped usi

Re: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Sean, A reminder of what Sean Rima on TBBETA typed on: 18 November 2004 at 21:40:56 GMT + > Well that is it, you have convinced us all :) I see you stopped using gmail Sean, any reason? - -- Best regards,Tony.

Re[2]: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Sean Rima
Tony, Thursday, November 18, 2004, 9:33:13 PM, you wrote: > Hello Sean, > A reminder of what Sean Rima on TBBETA typed on: > 18 November 2004 at 21:13:26 GMT + >> Jezz, speak for yourself, I *never* speak rubbish > I do all the time. The art of speaking rubbish is to make it convinci

Re: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Sean, A reminder of what Sean Rima on TBBETA typed on: 18 November 2004 at 21:13:26 GMT + > Jezz, speak for yourself, I *never* speak rubbish I do all the time. The art of speaking rubbish is to make it convincing enough for people to believe. Works all the time for me :) For e

Re[2]: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Sean Rima
Tony, Thursday, November 18, 2004, 9:04:35 PM, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:15:50 +0100, Dierk Haasis wrote: >> I may not be the strictest when it comes to OT discussions on TBBETA, >> but all this GMail related messages, shouldn't they

Re: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Tony Boom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:15:50 +0100, Dierk Haasis wrote: > I may not be the strictest when it comes to OT discussions on TBBETA, > but all this GMail related messages, shouldn't they be on a GMailBETA > list? This is what happens between Beta's when

Re: Strange address behaviour

2004-11-18 Thread Boris Anders
Hello Zygmunt, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote (in ): >> In the message overview window the sender is displayed as "Daßke, Detlev" >> but in the message window (header pane) it is displayed as >> "\\"Daßke, Detlev"" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I also observed such double esca

Re: Strange address behaviour

2004-11-18 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Thursday, November 18, 2004, at 19:11:17 [UTC+0100] (Thursday, November 18, 2004 19:11 my local time) Peter Hampf wrote: > In the message overview window the sender is displayed as "Daßke, Detlev" > but in the message window (header pane) it is displayed as > "\\"Daßke, Detlev"" <[EMAIL PRO

Strange address behaviour

2004-11-18 Thread Peter Hampf
Good evening tbbeta, I frequently get messages from a person "Detlev Daßke" with this header line: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Da=DFke=2C_Detlev=22?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In the message overview window the sender is displayed as "Daßke, Detlev" but in the message window (header pane) it i

Re[2]: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Paul Van Noord
Received From: Avi Yashar [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:15:50 +0100, Dierk Haasis wrote: >SMTP and POP3 - making it easy to send and receive Gmail via TB - >there was bound to be some discussion about configuration and the >like. As I said, Gmail is hot - not necessarily good - but de

Re: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Avi, A reminder of what Avi Yashar on TBBETA typed on: 18 November 2004 at 18:39:48 GMT +0200 > As I said, Gmail is hot - not necessarily good - but definitely > hot. He's right you know, hot, very hot... Fizzy Hotmail! -- Best regards,Tony. ___

Re: IMAP Auto Filtering...

2004-11-18 Thread AC Martin
Chris Weaven wrote: AM> I had experienced this once and it turned out that I did change AM> something. I had changed the name of my account and the filters hadn't AM> been autoupdated to reflect the change. Did you make any trivial changes AM> as this? Did you write to the lists about this problem

Re: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Avi Yashar
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:15:50 +0100, Dierk Haasis wrote: > I may not be the strictest when it comes to OT discussions on TBBETA, > but all this GMail related messages, shouldn't they be on a GMailBETA > list? Dierk, this was somewhat inevitable. Once Gmail introduced its free SMTP and POP3 - makin

Re: Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:15:50 +0100, Dierk Haasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I may not be the strictest when it comes to OT discussions on TBBETA, > but all this GMail related messages, shouldn't they be on a GMailBETA > list? Probably. Or TBOT at the least. But, TBBETA always turns into so

Lots of gmail traffic around

2004-11-18 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Thorvaldur! On Thursday, November 18, 2004 at 4:06:45 PM you wrote: > It's the other way around for me... I may not be the strictest when it comes to OT discussions on TBBETA, but all this GMail related messages, shouldn't they be on a GMailBETA list? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy '

Re: gmail

2004-11-18 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Keith, Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 7:41:36 PM, you wrote: K> I still have several, in fact I've got one left, first come first serve. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/

Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Thorvaldur
Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:37, Stefan Dorscht wrote: > Sending from Germany I had to use port 587 - it didn't work using > port 465 It's the other way around for me... -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional & PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000

Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Stefan Dorscht
Hello Þorvaldur, on Thursday, November 18, 2004 at you wrote: > Hæ! > Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:00, rmorris wrote: >> I had to use port 587,could it be different countries,servers? > I do not know. Hmmh, strange. Sending from Germany I had to use port 587 - it didn't work using port 46

Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Þorvaldur
Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:00, rmorris wrote: > I had to use port 587,could it be different countries,servers? I do not know. Hmmh, strange. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional & PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +-

Re[2]: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread rmorris
Hello Thorvald, Thursday, November 18, 2004, 7:22:00 AM, you wrote: TN> Thursday, November 18, 2004, 09:49, Peter Hampf wrote: >> Connection: "Secure to dedicated port 465". And "use settings of mail >> retrieval". That does work here just fine. TN> Why did they wrote port 587 on Gmail's website?

Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 09:52, Tony Boom wrote: > You need to enable STARTTLS for SMTP, TLS is for popping. TLS works with port 465 for SMTP. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional & PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---

Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 09:49, Peter Hampf wrote: > Connection: "Secure to dedicated port 465". And "use settings of mail > retrieval". That does work here just fine. Thanks, this works. :) Why did they wrote port 587 on Gmail's website? Just wondering... -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann |

Re: IMAP Auto Filtering...

2004-11-18 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Allie, On Thursday, November 18, 2004 08:02 your local time, which was 13:02 my local time, Allie Martin [AM] wrote; AM> I had experienced this once and it turned out that I did change AM> something. I had changed the name of my account and the filters hadn't AM> been autoupdated to reflect th

Re: NFS: erratic behaviour with subfilters

2004-11-18 Thread Boris Anders
Hello Maurice, Maurice Snellen wrote (in ): >>> Is there a but here or have I constructed my filters wrongly? >> Can't see a "logical error". > Actually, in total there are really a whole lot of filters there, > and it proved that I did make an error in the logic. So the

Re: IMAP Auto Filtering...

2004-11-18 Thread Allie Martin
Chris Weaven wrote: I have 'Auto-Filtering' enabled and 'Use Precise Counters' enabled aswell. It was working fine up until yesterday when it all of a sudden decided to stop working and I can't work out why, as I've not changed anything. If I manually re-filter, is say's the messages are filtered

IMAP Auto Filtering...

2004-11-18 Thread Chris Weaven
...has just stopped working for me, for no apparent reason! :-( I have 'Auto-Filtering' enabled and 'Use Precise Counters' enabled aswell. It was working fine up until yesterday when it all of a sudden decided to stop working and I can't work out why, as I've not changed anything. If I manually

Re: NFS: erratic behaviour with subfilters

2004-11-18 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Maurice, On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:05:31 +0100GMT (18-11-2004, 13:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MS> By removing the catchall filter and putting the 'move to @Unhandled' MS> folder back in the topmost parent, the filters started behaving as MS> expected. What if you use a condition to th

Re: NFS: erratic behaviour with subfilters

2004-11-18 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Wednesday, November 17, 2004 at 22:00 Boris Anders wrote: >> Is there a but here or have I constructed my filters wrongly? > Can't see a "logical error". Your filter seems to be correct > else it > wouldn't work on refilter. Further more, I heard from (one or two) > other user(s) similar probl

Re: Re[2]: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Avi Yashar
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:49:27 +0100, Peter Hampf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Connection: "Secure to dedicated port 465". And "use settings of mail > retrieval". That does work here just fine. That's what I use. And it works fine for me too. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.

Re[2]: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Peter Hampf
Hello Thorvald, on Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:45:16 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote: TN> POP works, but what settings do I have to use for SMTP? TN> I tried TLS to port 587 and entered the specific details under Perform TN> SMTP authentication/Use specific settings... Connection: "Secure to dedica

Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Thorvald, A reminder of what Thorvald Neumann on TBBETA typed on: 18 November 2004 at 09:45:16 GMT +0100 > I tried TLS to port 587 and entered the specific details under Perform > SMTP authentication/Use specific settings... You need to enable STARTTLS for SMTP, TLS is for popping.

Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! I checked the log and it says: "TLS protocol error: Unexpected message." -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional & PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox

Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-18 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 15:13, Avi Yashar wrote: > Confirmed. Gmail's POP3 and SMTP both work very smoothly in TB. And it > is very easy to configure TB for both. OK, Gmail just enabled the POP-options for my accounts. POP works, but what settings do I have to use for SMTP? I tried TL