Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Neal, @2-Dec-2005, 19:38 -0900 (03-Dec 04:38 here) Neal Laugman [NL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: NL> Friday, December 2, 2005, 6:21:36 AM, you quoted: DA It's just a bull reason to have another "product", based on the DA same source code. I.e. the reason is "more money". ;)

Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-03 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Marck > I detect a vigilante in our midst! A self flagellating one at that. > Hmmm... Yes - you've all made quite an immpression on me . -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.63.06 (Beta) and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 on Win2000 SP4

Re: Voyager Price

2005-12-03 Thread MAU
Hello Paul, > Thanks Max! I hope this appropriately places a cork where needed by > those lacking objectivity. I appreciate your efforts! For seven years > TB! has done for me what no other email client is capable of doing. If > we were all perfect why would they put erasers on pencils and why do

Re[2]: 3.63.06 IMAP is refreshing now

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello Neal, >>> I am still not able to connect, refresh or syncronize IMAP after coming >>> out of hibernation. >> It works ok here > Hmmm...What OS are you arunning on the laptop? All seems well on my > new laptop that has XP SP2 with Voyager with hibernation. I'm running > lots of different

Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Michael Schneider & everyone else, on 03-Dez-2005 at 00:01 you (Michael Schneider) wrote: > Why all these queries at the same moment? What is going on there? Is > this needed? I don't think so. Why do *YOU* worry about the registry? You're using Thunderbird on Linux, anyway. Please go else

Re: 3.63.06: VFs again not auto-refreshing

2005-12-03 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, > I don't know if the problem I have just seen is related to this BT > report: > > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4158 I finally added a note to this one. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 _

Re: Voyager Price

2005-12-03 Thread Sebastian Murawski
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Saturday night, Maxim wrote something like this: > There were opinions in the list that Voyager is another product to > make money. Can you describe differences between Voyager and Professional versions? We know about token

Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-03 Thread Michael Schneider
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > Why do *YOU* worry about the registry? You're using Thunderbird on Linux, > anyway. Please go elsewhere to rant about Windows, the registry, and > Ritlabs. Oh sorry. Didn't I tell you that I have three TheBat! licences and I'm running windows and linux on different work

Re: Voyager Price

2005-12-03 Thread Graham
Maxim Masiutin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you didn't use The Bat! before, you need only to purchase the registration of The Bat! Pro. Very good Max - Thanks to all you RIT guys. Could you answer my original question too please.. which was does the Voyager version have any code changes to

Abit of information about Ritlabs' products

2005-12-03 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi all, As far as I know, the Secure Bat! product is not developped any more. So, why is it it still mentionned on the Ritlabs's home page ? On the home page we talk about a future project called WebToMail, what about it, is it abandonned or should we have the chance to see it a day ? --

Re[2]: IMAP - Beware Remove Duplicates

2005-12-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Clive, Saturday, December 3, 2005, 1:52:54 AM, you wrote: >> All removed and not to trash, they are lost for ever. >> Confirmations? > Afraid not Stuart. Remove dupes does only that on my IMAP > mailboxes. H. Will have to watch this issue more. The duplicate issue is an odd one

Re: IMAP - Beware Remove Duplicates

2005-12-03 Thread Clive Taylor
> I have not noticed the problem with these lists, yet. :) Now you mention it, I'm not sure I've seen dupes here. I'll have to watch for them. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.

Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Nick Danger
Hey all, I have Voyager up and running but when I took my USB drive and plugged it into another computer and then ran Voyager all I got was a plethora of error messages that it couldn't open folders as it was looking for a drive letter that didn't exist. This can't be right - I'm hoping! Ideas o

What are the different antivirus plugin available

2005-12-03 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi, I would like to know, today, what are the different antivirus plugins available for TB ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud The Bat! Voyager 3.63.07 (BETA) running on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.

A TBV preference question

2005-12-03 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi, When we select to check one of several checkboxes on the preferences/applications/Associate The Bat! Voyager with specific file types/URLs, their state are not saved in the global.ini setting file, why ? Do you confirm this ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud The Bat! Voyager 3.63.07 (BE

Voyager - QuickTemplate Error

2005-12-03 Thread Nick Danger
Hello again, When I try to add/edit a quick template I get the following error: Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu' not found. Ideas? Thanks, -- Nick Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat

Re: A TBV preference question

2005-12-03 Thread Nick Danger
Reply to message sent 12/3/2005, @ 16:26:03 (9:26 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Claude, > Do you confirm this ? Now that is one the things that is working correctly for me. So I can't confirm that. -- Nick __

Re: A TBV preference question

2005-12-03 Thread Nick Danger
Reply to message sent 12/3/2005, @ 09:43:25 (9:43 AM Locally) ~~~ > Now that is one the things that is working correctly for me. So I > can't confirm that. However, any changes I make to my filters are not saved from session to session.

Re: Voyager - QuickTemplate Error

2005-12-03 Thread steverio
Hello Nick... On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:34:15 -0600, you wrote: >Hello again, > >When I try to add/edit a quick template I get the following error: > >Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu' not found. > >Ideas? > >Thanks, I can't confirm this. It's working for me. No ideas. -- steverio TB! Voyager v3.63.07

Re: A TBV preference question

2005-12-03 Thread steverio
Hello Claude... On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:26:03 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > > > When we select to check one of several checkboxes on the >preferences/applications/Associate The Bat! Voyager with specific file >types/URLs, their state are not saved in the >global.ini setting file, why ? > >Do you conf

Re: What are the different antivirus plugin available

2005-12-03 Thread MAU
Hello Claude, > I would like to know, today, what are the different antivirus plugins > available for TB ? Oh dear God, please make me be patient. But do it NOW! ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Winamp Playin

Re: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello Nick, > I have Voyager up and running but when I took my USB drive and plugged > it into another computer and then ran Voyager all I got was a plethora > of error messages that it couldn't open folders as it was looking for > a drive letter that didn't exist. > This can't be right - I'm hopi

Re: What are the different antivirus plugin available

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello Claude, > I would like to know, today, what are the different antivirus > plugins available for TB ? I would say, the three reliable one: AVG Avast DrWeb The first two has free AV versions for home use. I used to advise to have these to my customers... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on W

Re[2]: What are the different antivirus plugin available

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, >> I would like to know, today, what are the different antivirus >> plugins available for TB ? > Oh dear God, please make me be patient. But do it NOW! ;-) :))) I realized, MAU, that when I am on the edge, you are calm, and vice versa :))) You must have born is September (I was b

Re: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Fabio Muzzi
Hello Nick, Saturday, December 3, 2005, 4:18:37 PM, you wrote: ND> of error messages that it couldn't open folders as it was looking for ND> a drive letter that didn't exist. It seems Voyager stores message base paths in absolute mode, which is plain wrong. Paths must be stored relative

Voyager - Filter assignments

2005-12-03 Thread Nick Danger
An update on filters not keeping changes... It seems to be a bit more specific at least in my case. If I make any changes specifying to what accounts certain common filters are assigned, the changes are lost upon exiting Voyager. Thanks. -- Fly for now, òžó Nick Danger [MUA: The Bat! v3.63.

3.62.14 (and maybe later): filter based on address books presence

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, When I make a new filter and the condition is: Address Book (extended), selecting any Address book, that returns some complicated ID numbers to that editbox that shows the selected address books... Is it a bug? -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsom

Re: What are the different antivirus plugin available

2005-12-03 Thread MAU
Hello Vili, >>> I would like to know, today, what are the different antivirus >>> plugins available for TB ? >> Oh dear God, please make me be patient. But do it NOW! ;-) > > :))) I realized, MAU, that when I am on the edge, you are calm, and > vice versa :))) You must have born is September

Re[2]: What are the different antivirus plugin available

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, I would like to know, today, what are the different antivirus plugins available for TB ? >>> Oh dear God, please make me be patient. But do it NOW! ;-) >> >> :))) I realized, MAU, that when I am on the edge, you are calm, and >> vice versa :))) You must have born is Sept

Re: What are the different antivirus plugin available

2005-12-03 Thread Claude Renaud
Bonjour Vili, Le samedi 3 décembre 2005 à 21:53:34, vous écriviez : V> Hello MAU, > I would like to know, today, what are the different antivirus > plugins available for TB ? Oh dear God, please make me be patient. But do it NOW! ;-) Sorry, I wanted to say "currently" ... ?

Re[2]: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Vili, Saturday, December 03, 2005, 8:04:14 PM, you wrote: >>TBV is beta. Still stores some parameters in registry. So, we, you >>have to wait until it will be COMPLETELY mobile. Even if it stores something in the registry, it shouldn't give errors about drive letters. -- Best regards, Ma

Re[2]: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Fabio, Saturday, December 03, 2005, 8:35:43 PM, you wrote: >>It seems Voyager stores message base paths in absolute mode, which is >>plain wrong. How did you find out that? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Abit of information about Ritlabs' products

2005-12-03 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, December 3, 2005, Claude Renaud wrote: > On the home page we talk about a future project called WebToMail, what > about it, is it abandonned or should we have the chance to see it a day > ? please click to "Read more" button first, as I think, there are many informations avai

TBV server problems

2005-12-03 Thread Ron Secord
Hello TBBETA, I realize that Voyager was meant to use on a "remote" computer, but I set it up here on my home system (via flash drive) just to get it up & running. I did a backup of my TB! Pro on my system and then used that to "restore" onto Voyager. I'm having two problems immediately: 1) When

Re: Voyager Price

2005-12-03 Thread David Elliott
Hello Maxim, Saturday, December 3, 2005, 12:07:04 AM, you wrote: > There were opinions in the list that Voyager is another product to make > money. And so it should do. You should be rewarded for your efforts. > The users of The Bat! Professional will use Voyager with their keys of > The Bat! P

Re[3]: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello Maxim, >>>TBV is beta. Still stores some parameters in registry. So, we, you >>>have to wait until it will be COMPLETELY mobile. > Even if it stores something in the registry, it shouldn't give > errors about drive letters. I see. I just thought, I dont try it between computers until

Re: TBV server problems

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello Ron, > I realize that Voyager was meant to use on a "remote" computer, but I > set it up here on my home system (via flash drive) just to get it up & > running. I did a backup of my TB! Pro on my system and then used that > to "restore" onto Voyager. I'm having two problems immediately: > 1)

Re: 3.62.14 (and maybe later): filter based on address books presence

2005-12-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Vili, On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:35:32 +0100GMT (3-12-2005, 20:35 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V> When I make a new filter and the condition is: Address Book V> (extended), selecting any Address book, that returns some complicated V> ID numbers to that editbox that shows the sele

Re[4]: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Vili, Saturday, December 03, 2005, 1:01:47 AM, you wrote: >>I see. I just thought, I dont try it between computers until it is >>completely mobile. It's completely mobile. What's the problem? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: TBV server problems

2005-12-03 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Sunday, December 4, 2005, at 18:05:12 [UTC-0500] (Sunday, December 4, 2005 00:05 my local time) Vili wrote: >> 2) Under Options - Prefs - Viewer/Editor, I have Plain Text in all >> settings. However, many (not all) messages that I view are viewed as >> if I have them set to view as Rich Text/HT

Re: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Nick, On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:18:37 -0600GMT (3-12-2005, 16:18 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND> I have Voyager up and running but when I took my USB drive and plugged ND> it into another computer and then ran Voyager all I got was a plethora ND> of error messages that it couldn't open fol

Re: 3.62.14 (and maybe later): filter based on address books presence

2005-12-03 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Sunday, December 4, 2005, at 00:18:05 [UTC+0100] (Sunday, December 4, 2005 00:18 my local time) Roelof Otten wrote: V>> When I make a new filter and the condition is: Address Book V>> (extended), selecting any Address book, that returns some complicated V>> ID numbers to that editbo

Re: A TBV preference question

2005-12-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Claude, On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:26:03 +0100GMT (3-12-2005, 16:26 +0100, where I live), you wrote: CR>When we select to check one of several checkboxes on the CR> preferences/applications/Associate The Bat! Voyager with specific file CR> types/URLs, their state are not saved in the CR> glo

Re: Voyager - QuickTemplate Error

2005-12-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Nick, On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:34:15 -0600GMT (3-12-2005, 16:34 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ND> When I try to add/edit a quick template I get the following error: ND> Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu' not found. What version are you using? I had that error while using TBV 3.63.2.0 -- Groetje

Re: TBV server problems

2005-12-03 Thread Ron Secord
Vili [V] wrote, V> Firewall settings? I would put my bet on it. Do you let TBV to go V> out to the net? Thanks Vili, that firewall has bitten me before. You'd think I'd learn after awhile. :) V> Maybe they are HTML only mails, no? No, the original email that I wrote was in plain text (as are al

Re: Voyager Price

2005-12-03 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim, On 03-12-2005 01:07, you [MM] wrote in : MM> The users of The Bat! Professional will use Voyager with their MM> keys of The Bat! Pro. This means that The Bat! Pro registration is MM> also valid for Voyager. Impressive. Thanks. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 3.62.12 Pro MyGate,

Re: TBV server problems

2005-12-03 Thread Ron Secord
Ron Secord [RS] wrote, > No, the original email that I wrote was in plain text (as are all of > my messages) and it shows here in Voyager as Rich Text even though > my settings are to view as plain text. So this one is still a > stumper... Now I'm thinking that this is a bug, at least here. Here'

Re: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Vili, Saturday, December 3, 2005, 7:04:14 PM, you wrote: V> TBV is beta. Still stores some parameters in registry. So, we, you V> have to wait until it will be COMPLETELY mobile. As long as it uses the system registry I won't try it out. -- Best Wishes, Mark

Re[5]: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello Maxim, >>>I see. I just thought, I dont try it between computers until it is >>>completely mobile. > It's completely mobile. What's the problem? You and beta testers mentioned that it still stores something in the registry... If it is totally mobile, why does it store anything in the regist

Re[2]: 3.62.14 (and maybe later): filter based on address books presence

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello Roelof, V>> When I make a new filter and the condition is: Address Book V>> (extended), selecting any Address book, that returns some complicated V>> ID numbers to that editbox that shows the selected address books... > Confirmed. V>> Is it a bug? > Don't know. I'm using OTFE and

Re: Voyager - mobility?

2005-12-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Maxim, Sunday, December 4, 2005, 12:20:44 AM, you wrote: MM> It's completely mobile. What's the problem? As long as it uses the registry it won't be. :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.63.06 (Beta) MyMacros 1.11 zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7

Re[2]: TBV server problems

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello Ron, V>> Firewall settings? I would put my bet on it. Do you let TBV to go V>> out to the net? > Thanks Vili, that firewall has bitten me before. You'd think I'd learn > after awhile. :) :)) V>> Maybe they are HTML only mails, no? > No, the original email that I wrote was in plain text (as

Re: Voyager Price

2005-12-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Paul, Saturday, December 3, 2005, 2:59:43 AM, you wrote: PVN> If we were all perfect why would they put erasers on pencils and PVN> why do they make replacement erasers? If we were perfect, would we still need pencils? :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat

Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Neal, Saturday, December 3, 2005, 5:38:43 AM, you wrote: NL> Please do not quote swearing members on this list. This is a clear NL> violation of the list rules and will not be tolerated. The audience NL> here is a mixed bunch and this is as much a matter of polite NL> consideration for othe

3.62.14 (and maybe later): Quick Templates bug(?)

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, If you open the QT editor window, in the table you can see the ID of the QT, share or not, description, if can be used for new, reply mails, AND FORWARD. But there is no settings regarding mail forward... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 _

Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Jernej, Friday, December 2, 2005, 11:03:05 PM, you wrote: JS> Registry slow? Get RegMon from sysinternals, and look at the number of JS> transactions Registry handles per second - (I get an average of 870 on my JS> computer). Now imagine that all of these were instead querying normal files

Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Alexander, Friday, December 2, 2005, 10:59:49 PM, you wrote: ASK> Thats a common myth, and it never happened to me even once in 5 1/2 years ASK> of using different Windows systems. Good to know the crashes I had and the problems I currently have were due to "a common myth"! :-) -- Best

Re: Voyager spec...

2005-12-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Michael, Friday, December 2, 2005, 11:43:42 PM, you wrote: MS> How about moving to a new workstation? With configuration-files you just MS> have to backup your application and your configuration, copy both on MS> your new machine and your done. Try this one with applications that need MS> t

3.62.14 (and maybe later): Quick Template bug, Cannot focus on invisible window

2005-12-03 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, Select any of your QT. Select Edit. You have 2 panels: General and Options. Select Options. Press the Macros button and select for example Text, %Cursor makro. You will get a "Cannot focus on invisible window" error message. The problem is that the Macros button can be accesse