[Reply to: »Rick« · 2009-01-09 · 02:03 h (CET)]
Moin, Rick!
Believe me. They will never learn.
Those who can - do. Those who can't - bitch about it.
Up And Running!
There ... now don't you feel BETTER? :)
Oh, Rick! – You should have known better: DO NOT FEED THE TROLL! ;-)
Cheers!
VA
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Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 00:55, Franz Schöler wrote:
It should be nothing but correct English language, don't you think so?
Yes, but for the first shot it is enough.
--
With kind Regards
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg
The Bat! 4.1.9
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 08:30, NetVicious wrote:
I mailed the German Version to Maxim right now.
Please tell us the url of the webpage.
The english webpage please ;-)
I want to translate it to spanish too.
As easy as going on ritlabs.com and click download, you come to:
Hello The Bat! Beta The Bat! Beta,
the automatic From Selection still works,
but it is used always the default Account.
Even the From E-Mail does not belong to the Account.
I had to implement %ACCOUNT=Jens XYZ as a workaround in several
Templates, after i got a lot of Mailer-Daemons.
This
Hello The Bat! Beta Tester,
there is no possibility to Find Orginal of Message out of the Adress
History, if you do not know in which Folder - you are lost.
In the Search Dialog, there is the Option to Find Orginal which
changes directly into the Orginal Folder and highlights the Message.
Hello The Bat! Beta The Bat! Beta,
1)
even i have this disabled, it is now enabled again.
Folks, please have a look into your Tab Adresses where the
Adress-History is tracked - mine has been absolutely full, because i
never look there without an special occasion.
I had to switch it
Hello The Bat! Beta Tester,
i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying
to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search
Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on
again in the View/Toolbars.
--
With kind Regards
Jens
Hello Jens,
2)
It is not possible to mark more than one Adress in this Tab to delete
it, so it has been a lot of work (every Mail 2 Keystrokes) to delete
them again.
You can delete them all in Options/Preferences/Address History and
selecting 'Limit history' by 0 days and also selecting
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:27:09 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 12:27 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF the automatic From Selection still works,
Confirmed.
JF but it is used always the default Account.
Not confirmed. It's always using the selected account. (Selected as
where you've got
Hello The Bat! Beta Tester,
i have a lot of Folders and subfolders, because i put something in
categories, for example:
*COMMON FOLDERS*\\Bills\\Phones\\O2-Telefonica
Today i searched for, if i still have a Folder for NAME
There is not Option in The Bat! to search for Folders?
--
With kind
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:00, Roelof Otten wrote:
JF the automatic From Selection still works,
Confirmed.
JF but it is used always the default Account.
Not confirmed. It's always using the selected account. (Selected as
where you've got the focus, not as belonging to the address
Hello Roelof,
JF This is important to work again!
It works just fine as it is, please don't change the current
behaviour.
Fully agree with you. I think Jens may be referring to replies written from
Common folders and the feature which was introduced in v4.0.39.38:
,- [ In
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:47:21 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 12:47 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF there is no possibility to Find Orginal of Message out of the Adress
JF History, if you do not know in which Folder - you are lost.
Of course it's possible.
Double click on the message you
Hello Jens,
i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying
to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search
Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on
again in the View/Toolbars.
That's default behaviour. If you press
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:05:13 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 13:05 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF There is not Option in The Bat! to search for Folders?
Start typing the name of the folder with focus on the account tree
pane...
--
Groetjes, Roelof
I'm not a Vulcan, but I play one on
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:55:40 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 12:55 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying
JF to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search
JF Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone
Hello Jens,
There is not Option in The Bat! to search for Folders?
Select your topmost account or folder in your folder tree and just star
typing the name of the folder you want to go to.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:11:48 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 13:11 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF To be more specific, i have my Focus to NONE Account, because anything
JF is in Common Folders.
JF -Try to set your Focus on a Common Folder outside the Accounts.
OK, created a common folder
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:13, MAU wrote:
Fully agree with you.
The old Behavior, when Account is Focussed should not be changed.
I think Jens may be referring to replies written from
Common folders and the feature which was introduced in v4.0.39.38:
,- [ In
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:16, Roelof Otten wrote:
and when you've got 'view - show message list'
enabled then you can see the other messages in that folder.
That's the trick, thank you - that did it.
It's of little help of course when you've got umpteen folders with the
same name in a
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:15, MAU wrote:
There is not Option in The Bat! to search for Folders?
Select your topmost account or folder in your folder tree and just star
typing the name of the folder you want to go to.
That only works one time, if i have Folders
- MSGTAG
- MyMails
The
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:19, MAU wrote:
Hello Jens,
i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying
to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search
Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on
again in the
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:20, Roelof Otten wrote:
JF and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars.
No, not necessary. Simply start typing while you've got the focus on
the message list pane.
Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too?
--
With kind Regards
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:38, Roelof Otten wrote:
JF -The FROM: will be selected correctly, but the Account will be Default
The From will be the from of my default account, not matching the To
header of the message I replied.
Thats different @me :-o
BTW Just like I expected as that
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:01:53 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 14:01 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF And only the first character works.
Nope.
The full name works.
If I type tbbeta, then I go there and pass tbudl and tbot.
And TB searches top down. Set focus below the first 'sent mail' and
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:57, MAU wrote:
I may be blind but, where do you guys see the advantage of using Common
folders?
I dont want to look in different Accounts, i would be glad if i could
hide the Accounts in the Folder-Pane (like in Thunderbird it is
possible).
I have one
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:04:18 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 14:04 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too?
No, of course not, it is there:
,- [ ]
| Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message
| list. As
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 14:13, Roelof Otten wrote:
JF And only the first character works.
Nope.
The full name works.
If I type tbbeta, then I go there and pass tbudl and tbot.
i was too slow, try to make a pause of 5 seconds during the characters
and you will be surprised.
And you don't
Hello Jens,
To be more specific, i have my Focus to NONE Account, because anything
is in Common Folders.
-Try to set your Focus on a Common Folder outside the Accounts.
-Copy a Message there, which is not TO: your default Account
-Reply to this Message
-The FROM: will be selected
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:58:41 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 13:58 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF There is a Syntax Error in the Menue of the open Message.
JF It should be Export Colum Settings to... but it is Message List
JF Colums...
Huh?
--
Groetjes, Roelof
I'd Have Written
Hallo Jens,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:22:38 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 14:22 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF i was too slow, try to make a pause of 5 seconds during the characters
JF and you will be surprised.
I know, that's a mixed blessing. It means that you can start anew
quickly, but it
Hallo Roelof,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:28:58 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 14:28 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
JF And you don't see what you type in, nowhere you can see that.
RO I would mind some sort of quick search bar for the account tree pane,
RO but I'd hardly use it, so...
I omitted the 'not'
Hello Roelof,
JF Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too?
No, of course not, it is there:
We all forget to RTFM sometimes ;) TB's Help is far from perfect but it
does include a lot of information.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The
Hello Jens,
(Normally no Messages reside physically in virtual Folders...).
Normally? They _never_ reside in virtual folders, that's why they are
*virtual* :)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
Hello Roelof,
... as I don't use common folders.
You mean that you and myself are the only smart people in this
community? ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
Hello Roelof,
JF And you don't see what you type in, nowhere you can see that.
RO I would mind some sort of quick search bar for the account tree pane,
RO but I'd hardly use it, so...
I omitted the 'not'
I would not mind some sort of quick search bar for the account tree pane
It works
Hallo Miguel,
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:52:49 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 14:52 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
... as I don't use common folders.
M You mean that you and myself are the only smart people in this
M community? ;-)
No, I'm sure that there are more people who've got the sense to stay
away
1/9/2009 9:03 AM
Hi MAU,
On 1/9/2009 MAU wrote:
M As a side comment, I don't use Common folders at all because I have
M never seen the real advantage of using them. And I have always wondered
M why many (you are just one of them) move messages from different
M accounts to common folders and
1/9/2009 9:08 AM
Hi Roelof,
On 1/9/2009 Roelof Otten wrote:
... as I don't use common folders.
M You mean that you and myself are the only smart people in this
M community? ;-)
RO No, I'm sure that there are more people who've got the sense to stay
RO away from common folder, but I guess
Whom should you spend once a week a beer this year?
(Please don't scroll down, do the small counting first)
1. Choose your favourite number between 1 and 9
2. Multiply that with 3
3. Add 3 to the outcome
4. Multiply that once more with 3
5. You've a number now from two digits. Count the first
Hello Jens,
I dont want to look in different Accounts, i would be glad if i could
hide the Accounts in the Folder-Pane (like in Thunderbird it is
possible).
You can do it in TB.
- Create a Common colour group with default values and colours.
- Assign this CG to each of your Common
Hello Gunivortus,
Whom should you spend once a week a beer this year?
(Please don't scroll down, do the small counting first)
1. Choose your favourite number between 1 and 9
2. Multiply that with 3
3. Add 3 to the outcome
4. Multiply that once more with 3
5. You've a number now from two
Hello MAU,
... no matter which number I pick, the result always yields 2. So,
Angela Merkel! ;-)
Ooops! When building the QT I forgot to account for the time zone. I
have modified it and the result is now always: 3 where I live ;)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Hello,
The following error sometimes appears when I restart or shut down the
PC:
---
Application Error
---
Exception EThreadListLeak in module thebat.exe at 0006A448.
Resource leak: 27 instance(s) of TInterfaceList left
Caller addresses listed
Hi MAU,
Aha! You were trying to get me because you know I am not too good with
numbers, right? But I think I gotcha my friend. I wrote a Common QT
using most of the %REGEXP macros and the %CALC one and, no matter which
number I pick, the result always yields 2. So, Angela Merkel! ;-)
Ohweia!
Hello all,
I hardly use message memos now but I did use them quite a bit in my
business account when I was active and I am a bit curious.
Are memos still kept/saved in index file?
What happen(s/ed) with existing memos when upgrading and converting from
old to new indexes?
--
Best regards,
Hello Mau,
Friday, January 09, 2009, 19:43:10, you wrote:
Are memos still kept/saved in index file?
Yes.
What happen(s/ed) with existing memos when upgrading and converting from
old to new indexes?
They are converting from old to new indexes. During conversion the old indexes
are deleted, so
Hello all,
Friday, January 9, 2009, MAU wrote:
I hardly use message memos now but I did use them quite a bit in my
business account when I was active and I am a bit curious.
Are memos still kept/saved in index file?
What happen(s/ed) with existing memos when upgrading and converting from
Hello Maxim,
Are memos still kept/saved in index file?
Yes.
That's what I expected.
What happen(s/ed) with existing memos when upgrading and converting
from old to new indexes?
They are converting from old to new indexes. During conversion the
old indexes are deleted, so if a user will run
Hello Marek,
I am using them and all of memos were converted to new indexes without
problem.
Good to know.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
Current beta
Another Problem with the Quick Search i found out is:
It does not fetch down into Subfolders only maxdepth=1
even not, if the tree is open to view.
So, this is not usable, because the Folders in the first level i can
see easy by scolling down my Wheel...
--
With kind Regards
Jens Franik
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 14:48, MAU wrote:
We all forget to RTFM sometimes ;) TB's Help is far from perfect but it
does include a lot of information.
If you find it...
Or maybe it's to long ago i did read the Manual?
--
With kind Regards
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me?
Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 at 22:51, Jens Franik wrote:
Your official site should be and is now correct.
I mailed the German Version to Maxim right now.
I did also put it to download via HTTP
(Link in mid:1792918232.20090109001...@gmx.de)
but nothing happened by now...
--
With kind Regards
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 14:51, MAU wrote:
(Normally no Messages reside physically in virtual Folders...).
Normally? They _never_ reside in virtual folders, that's why they are
*virtual* :)
I tested it again, because i though i have been able to put Messages
there, but it does not
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 14:58, MAU wrote:
I would not mind some sort of quick search bar for the account tree pane
It works just exactly the same that the folder tree in Windows Explorer.
Thats not true!
I did a search and selected Filetype Folder (you can choose any
Filetype
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 15:51, MAU wrote:
I dont want to look in different Accounts, i would be glad if i could
hide the Accounts in the Folder-Pane (like in Thunderbird it is
possible).
You can do it in TB.
- Create a Common colour group with default values and colours.
-
Hello The Bat! Beta Tester,
after i played around with the Adressbook yesterday, i got an AV which
is (hopefully) also in the exeptions.log
,- [ ]
| ---
| The Bat!
| ---
| Access violation at address 006755E8 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 18:43, MAU wrote:
I hardly use message memos now but I did use them quite a bit in my
business account when I was active and I am a bit curious.
Are memos still kept/saved in index file?
What happen(s/ed) with existing memos when upgrading and converting from
On Friday, January 9, 2009, 1:48:44 PM, MAU wrote:
Anyway, I always thought that keeping memos in index file was a bit
risky. Have you ever thought about using a separate specific file for
memos?
More than once, a solution to a problem was to delete the index file,
and let it get rebuilt.
Frequently if I think better of a message and try to exit, when I
chose to not save I get an access violation, and the message doesn't
close. The only way out is to park the message in the outbox, then go
back and delete it there.
--
Dwight A. Corrin
316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax
dcorrin
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 18:43, MAU wrote:
I hardly use message memos now but I did use them quite a bit in my
business account when I was active and I am a bit curious.
Are memos still kept/saved in index file?
What happen(s/ed) with existing memos when upgrading and converting from
Hi Maxim,
on Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:22:50 +0200GMT (05.01.2009, 17:22 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:
MM Please make a TBK backup with your Voyager and try the new
MM version:
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_4-1-7-3.exe
I did and the conversion seems to have run fine.
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 at 21:24:37 +0100, Jens wrote:
Another Problem with the Quick Search i found out is:
It does not fetch down into Subfolders only maxdepth=1
even not, if the tree is open to view.
Here it goes down to a depth of 3 subfolders (which is the most I have).
--
Robin
Using The
MM Please make a TBK backup with your Voyager and try the new
MM version:
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_4-1-7-3.exe
I did and the conversion seems to have run fine. I didn't need the
backup yet.
Should not we test v4.1.9? That does not have the empty
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 22:35, Rick wrote:
Ok - I have never used memos. Where is the setting for Auto View (Yes
I checked the help file before asking - can't find it) :S
Its checked in the Menue on/off
--
With kind Regards
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 23:26, Robin Anson wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 at 21:24:37 +0100, Jens wrote:
Another Problem with the Quick Search i found out is:
It does not fetch down into Subfolders only maxdepth=1
even not, if the tree is open to view.
Here it goes down to a depth of 3
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 22:35, Rick wrote:
Ok - I have never used memos. Where is the setting for Auto View (Yes
I checked the help file before asking - can't find it) :S
Its checked in the Menue on/off
... I see that now ... and just leaves that window open whether or not
there is text
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 22:35, Rick wrote:
Ok - I have never used memos. Where is the setting for Auto View (Yes
I checked the help file before asking - can't find it) :S
Its checked in the Menue on/off
Thanks for the reply BTW :)
--
Rick
If you can dream it, you can do it. - Walt
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 23:26, Robin Anson wrote:
Another Problem with the Quick Search i found out is:
It does not fetch down into Subfolders only maxdepth=1
even not, if the tree is open to view.
Here it goes down to a depth of 3 subfolders (which is the most I have).
Ok, i found
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 23:58, Rick wrote:
Ok - I have never used memos. Where is the setting for Auto View (Yes
I checked the help file before asking - can't find it) :S
Its checked in the Menue on/off
... I see that now ... and just leaves that window open whether or not
there is
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 23:58, Rick wrote:
Thanks for the reply BTW :)
I am only slow, because i do a lot of things at the same time and
because i changed my phone provider, i am offline since 29.12. until
15.1. and my only connection is via UMTS 3,6 MBit/s or if i am lucky
with
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 23:58, Rick wrote:
Ok - I have never used memos. Where is the setting for Auto View (Yes
I checked the help file before asking - can't find it) :S
Its checked in the Menue on/off
... I see that now ... and just leaves that window open whether or not
there is
Samstag, 10. Januar 2009 at 00:13, Rick wrote:
You are of course correct. Again, I have not been a memo user but I
would have expected Auto View to pop up only memos with something in
them, not keep a blank window open
@me it does not work at all, it does NOT pop up, regardless what i do.
Hello The Bat! Beta Tester,
sind a very long time, several month i have at least one Folder open,
when i move Messages, which is not open in Reality.
Some other Folders changed this behavior, but i am not sure if this is
the only one which behaves like this. I guess the others changed that
Hello Jens,
It does not fetch down into Subfolders only maxdepth=1
even not, if the tree is open to view.
It works to any depth here.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
Hello Jens,
I would not mind some sort of quick search bar for the account tree pane
It works just exactly the same that the folder tree in Windows Explorer.
Thats not true!
It is in the sense I meant, that while you are at the folder tree you
can start typing the name of a folder and,
Hello Jens,
But you can define Real Folders under Virtual Folders..
Yes, I know. And I use that quite a bit. For example, I have a [Family]
VF and then a physical folder for each member under it. The VF uses a
threaded view and it looks to all member folders. That way I can easily
follow
Hello Dwight,
Anyway, I always thought that keeping memos in index file was a bit
risky. Have you ever thought about using a separate specific file for
memos?
More than once, a solution to a problem was to delete the index file,
and let it get rebuilt.
Yes, that's what I meant by risky.
Hello Jens,
... I see that now ... and just leaves that window open whether or not
there is text in the memo ... hmmm. It would be nice if there was some
indicator that there was something IN the memo I would think
Thats what i tried to say with Flag for Memo.
In view modes you can select
Hello Jens,
But don't you think it would be better to be able to hide 7 Accounts
instead of define Colorgroup to 120 Folders?
Your approach to using TB and mine are totally different. I DO NOT use
any common folders, why would I want to hide any accounts?
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech
Hello Jens,
Virtual Folders are not recognized, i dont know if it is because their
names are * Virtual *, but sure you can not type SPACE because this
has other context, maybe even * does not work.
My VF names all start with a [ and end with ] and, believe me, they are
recognised.
--
Hello Jens,
... I see that now ... and just leaves that window open whether or not
there is text in the memo ... hmmm. It would be nice if there was some
indicator that there was something IN the memo I would think
Thats what i tried to say with Flag for Memo.
In view modes you can select
Hello Rick,
That works!! Good idea!
Of course! What did you expect? All my ideas are good! Except when they
are not. ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
viernes, 9 ene 2009 at 10:03, it seems you wrote:
http://ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php
Which is the interposed new Page and directs to
http://ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download2.php
Which is the orginal Download Page
mmm! I though this page was only show when a
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