10/14/2004
MB I really didn't think that I had the computer skills to be able to
MB contribute, among the really able people on a list where I'd been
MB lurking for awhile.
Beta testing is less a matter of computer skills per se, than it
is a matter of using the software enough to find out
Hello Tbbeta,
We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a new version announcement
within a few hours.
--
Best
Hello Martin,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 10:38:24, you wrote:
Well not a big problem - but I had to reopen:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2456
Thank you, we will fix this bug afterwards (after this release).
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Best regards,
Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, at 10:26:51 [UTC+0300] (Wednesday,
October 13, 2004 09:26 my local time) Maxim Masiutin wrote:
We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
Both wrapped and non-wrapped 3.0.1.33 versions start and exit smoothly
on Windows 95. However, I don't have ant TB track in
Maxim,
On 13-10-2004 09:26, you [MM] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MM If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a new
MM version announcement within a few hours.
Could you elaborate on what the size descriptions in the MSI installer
are supposed to stand for?
Mine said Help
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Martin,
MS Well not a big problem - but I had to reopen:
MS https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2456
It must be OK in .33 - please check it.
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All the Best!
Stefan
A dirty book is seldom dusty.
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Hello,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 10:03:21 AM, you wrote:
MS Well not a big problem - but I had to reopen:
MS https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2456
ST It must be OK in .33 - please check it.
Not fixed...
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2456
Please also check very annoying bug
Hi Maxim,
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, at 10:26:51 [GMT +0300] (which was 9:26 where I live)
you wrote about: 'Wrapped .33'
We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
Hi Martin,
MS No, not fixed - please read added note to bugreport - problem when
MS using quick templates.
Sorry, I should have checked the BT before. It's fixed now, but it's a
subject of the new Beta series. :-)
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Regards,
Stefan
If love is blind, lingerie makes great braille.
Maxim Masiutin [MM] wrote,
We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a new
version announcement within a few
Hi Maxim,
on Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:26:51 +0300GMT, you wrote:
MM We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
Installed without problems and works smoothly as far as I can tell.
There is still no entry in the ARP, but who cares... ;-)
--
Cheers
Peter
The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98, 4, 10,
Hello Maxim!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 2:26 AM, you wrote:
MM We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
...
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
MM If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a
MM new version announcement within a few hours.
Hello Maxim!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 7:00 AM, you wrote:
MB I read a post on tbudl just now that seemed to indicate that the
MB announcement has been made, in which the poster complained that
MB the .com website is still announcing v. 2.0. So, if you have
MB announced, congratulations--I
Hello Maxim,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 9:26:51 AM, among other things, you wrote:
MM We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
I have just downloaded and installed from this .msi. No problem with
installing, but still no TB
On Wednesday, 13 October 2004 at 13:03 (UK time), Roger Phillips said:
I have just downloaded and installed from this .msi. No problem with
installing, but still no TB entry in my 'Add\Remove programs' list.
It has been pointed out several times on this list that you won't now get
this on
Hello Maxim,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 2:26:51 AM, you wrote:
MM Hello Tbbeta,
MM We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
MM If nobody will found any trouble
Maxim Masiutin wrotes on 13/10/2004 at 18:26:51 +1100
subject Wrapped .33 :
Hello Tbbeta,
We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
If nobody will found any
Hello Maxim,
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 you wrote:
Hello Tbbeta,
We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:00:35 -0500, Mary Bull wrote:
Another :star: to you and to all your colleagues! Many thanks
for the hard, careful work and quick responses to your beta
testers. :)
Many thanks for what? I think you (as many others on this list)
have lost perspective a bit. RitLabs is
Hello Arjan!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 10:40 AM, you wrote:
AdG It's these people you should say thank you to (IMNSHO of
AdG course).
So, I'm waiting for your thank-you to me. So far, all I have received
is an on-line scolding. :)
--
Best regards,
Mary
The Bat 3.0.1.33 (Professional
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:21:14 +0200, Krzysztof Trybowski wrote:
Doesn't install at all.
It installed fine for me, Krzysztof. And, so far, I don't see any
evidence of the annoyances associated with RC6 - the old help files
(though I cannot say if this msi overwrote the others, because I did
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Hello Avi,
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Avi mused about Wrapped .33 (at least in part):
:pacsnip2a:
AY But I have a different question. I'd like to know why the Windows
AY installer wanted to connect to the Internet when I was installing TB.
AY What
Hi Maxim Masiutin,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004
you let us know -at least in parts- :
If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a new
version announcement within a few hours.
I know that I am late (running the new major release since two hours),
but finally I can say: let the
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:14:11 -0700, Michael L. Wilson wrote:
Microsoft Software Installer (msi) connects to the internet when it is
used to check for new versions of itself. It is a function of the
MSI, not The Bat! installer.
Thanks for the clarification, Michael. That is good to know.
--
So, I'm waiting for your thank-you to me. So far, all I have
received is an on-line scolding. :)
My, isn't there a lot of bad temper around today, Mary? Must be the
weather or something.
--
Regards
Clive Taylor
Using TB 3.0.1.33
Hello Arjan!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 5:40:48 PM you wrote:
I think it is a expletive withheld shame that RitLabs saddles
its loyal-through-thick-and-thin group of Beta testers up which
such an awful mess. It's these people you should say thank you
to (IMNSHO of course).
Well,
Hello Clive!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 11:49 AM, you wrote:
MB So, I'm waiting for your thank-you to me. So far, all I have
MB received is an on-line scolding. :)
CT My, isn't there a lot of bad temper around today, Mary? Must be the
CT weather or something.
LOL Did you not notice the
LOL Did you not notice the Smiley?
I wasn't referring to you, Mary, as I suspect you know.
I'm allergic to smileys (and those horrible :: things too, I'm afraid)
so that's why I subconsciously blotted out the wretched thing!
--
Regards
Clive Taylor
Using TB 3.0.1.33
Well, we have a bit of time on our hands while we wait for the next
beta to arrive. I am trying to do a good job. How would you rate my
efforts so far? :)
Sorry, Mary, I didn't read the rest of your posting - interrupted by
the household domestic goddess for a dressing down. I think you're
Hello Clive,
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT My, isn't there a lot of bad temper around today, Mary? Must be the
CT weather or something.
As one of the few members on this list who have personally met Mary I
don't think she's capable of a bad tempered thought (but I
Hello Clive!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 12:10 PM, you wrote:
MB lol Did you not notice the Smiley?
CT I wasn't referring to you, Mary, as I suspect you know.
Honestly, I did not. You were posting directly to an exchange between
Arjan and me, and you called me by name in the body of the
As one of the few members on this list who have personally met Mary
I don't think she's capable of a bad tempered thought (but I could
be wrong
My strangled English has obviously given the impression that I was
complaining about Mary. I wasn't. My comments were about other
postings here today;
Hello Clive!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 12:16 PM, you wrote:
CT Sorry, Mary, I didn't read the rest of your posting ...
It's okay. I'm really in a very happy mood. I'll send a PM to you,
since this is getting toward being OT.
And yes, we would very much enjoy reading you on tbot again.
Hello Clive,
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CT My strangled English has obviously given the impression that I was
CT complaining about Mary. I wasn't.
Just read your other messages and realise that you weren't complaining
at her.
As for strangled English, if it isn't
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:26:51 +0300, Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a new version announcement
within a few hours.
No Halloween edition this year? :-(
Thanks for the hard work though.
--
Kevin
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:53:17 -0500, Mary Bull wrote:
[The Beta! Testers]
It's these people you should say thank you to (IMNSHO
of course).
So, I'm waiting for your thank-you to me. So far, all I
have received is an on-line scolding. :)
Are you a Beta Tester then? Sorry, I haven't noticed
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:55:41 +0200, Dierk Haasis wrote:
Stefan, Val and Maxim did thank the beta testers, in the past
and in the current beta cycle.
Yeah, sure, but that doesn't excuse them from the almost daily
dumping of obviously half baked and/or hardly (not?) tested beta
builds on the poor
Hello Arjan!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 8:29:16 PM you wrote:
Gratitude? Thank you for providing me with a torch after leaving
me on my own in the dark and cold depths of your scary Bat!
cave?
Why do you stay with TB if it doesn't meet your needs? Why do you
[potentially insulting
Hello Krzysztof Kudlacik everyone else
13-Okt-2004 20:02, you wrote:
If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a new version
announcement within a few hours.
NP_macro - 'now playing' does'nt work. Eighter under W2k or WninXP.
Thats most likely not a TB! native macro, is it? :)
Hello Maxim,
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 9:26:51 AM Maxim [MM] wrote:
MM We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
[...]
MM If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a
MM new version announcement within a few hours.
At least no trouble with installation.
MSI shows wrong
Hello Arjan de Groot everyone else
13-Okt-2004 20:29, you wrote:
Yeah, sure, but that doesn't excuse them from the almost daily dumping of
obviously half baked and/or hardly (not?) tested beta builds on the poor
heads of their honorary testing crew. It now surely looks like RitLabs
leaves
Hello Arjan!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 1:29 PM, you wrote:
ADJIt's these people you should say thank you to (IMNSHO
ADJof course).
MBSo, I'm waiting for your thank-you to me. So far, all I
MBhave received is an on-line scolding. :)
AdG Are you a Beta Tester then? Sorry, I haven't noticed
Hello Arjan,
Yeah, sure, but that doesn't excuse them from the almost daily
dumping of obviously half baked and/or hardly (not?) tested beta
builds on the poor heads of their honorary testing crew. It now
surely looks like RitLabs leaves all the dirty work to them.
Please don't complain on
Hello Krzysztof,
NP_macro - 'now playing' does'nt work. Eighter under W2k or WninXP.
See below my signature. I use %WINAMPTITLE though.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4
Winamp Playing: Fattburger - Monica
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Hello Arjan,
On 13 October 2004 at 20:29:16GMT +0200 (which was 19:29 where I live)
Arjan de Groot wrote and made these points on the subject of Wrapped
.33:
AdG Yeah, sure, but that doesn't excuse them from the almost daily
AdG dumping of obviously
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Hello Alexander,
On 13 October 2004 at 21:34:30GMT +0200 (which was 20:34 where I live)
Alexander S. Kunz wrote and made these points on the subject of
Wrapped .33:
ASK Oh please, will you go troll yourself? Thanks.
LOL I loved that expression
Hello Krzysztof,
NP_macro - 'now playing' does'nt work. Eighter under W2k or WninXP.
which macro do you use?
Try the 'Universal NP' by Stanislav V. Mikov - following player are
supported: WinAMP, Foobar2000, Quintessential Player, 1by1, Apollo, and
System Tray Player.
There are no problems
Quoting Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello Arjan!
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 1:29 PM, you wrote:
ADJIt's these people you should say thank you to (IMNSHO
ADJof course).
MBSo, I'm waiting for your thank-you to me. So far, all I
MBhave received is an on-line scolding. :)
AdG Are you
Cheers Mary,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 14:34:51, you wrote:
MB Did you mean that sarcastically? I am very sensitive about it, since
MB I've only been doing it since v. 3.0. That was only because someone on
MB tbudl challenged me to come on here and help test filters.
Ah well. Mary, please
Hello Dennis,
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DH I'll say no more about this matter except to offer my respect to
DH both the developers and testers for what they've accomplished to
DH date.
Amen to that and I've just added an address to my kill filter.
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Regards,
Hendrik Oesterlin wrotes on 14/10/2004 at 00:38:44 +1100
subject Wrapped .33 :
Maxim Masiutin wrotes on 13/10/2004 at 18:26:51 +1100
subject Wrapped .33 :
Hello Tbbeta,
We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http
Hi Miguel,
on Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:57:22 +0200GMT, you wrote:
NP_macro - 'now playing' does'nt work. Eighter under W2k or WninXP.
M See below my signature. I use %WINAMPTITLE though.
This works here too.
--
Cheers
Peter
The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 98, 4, 10, build ,
IBM Thinkpad 760XL
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:52:58 +0200, MAU wrote:
Please don't complain on our behalf, at least on mine. We, beta
testers, are _volunteers_ for one reason or another and we (at
least I) enjoy beta testing. Let us (at least me) do the
complaining if and when we have to.
OK, I will keep my mouth shut
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:10:57 +0200, Dierk Haasis wrote:
Gratitude? Thank you for providing me with a torch after
leaving me on my own in the dark and cold depths of your scary
Bat! cave?
Why do you stay with TB if it doesn't meet your needs?
Now where did I give you the impression TB! doesn't
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:34:51 -0500, Mary Bull wrote:
Are you a Beta Tester then? Sorry, I haven't noticed before.
Did you mean that sarcastically?
Uhmm... I haven't decided yet. ;)
I am very sensitive about it, since I've only been doing it
since v. 3.0.
Well, I have to confess that I don't
Hello Krzysztof,
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 you wrote:
Doesn't install at all. Tried both home and pro package. During removing
Okay, so apparently TB's install was trying to remove the previous version
of TB, and was looking a MSI file of that older version in a folder from
where
Hello Arjan,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 16:51:41, you wrote:
AdG You may or may not have read my contribution on TBBeta about my
AdG (failed) attempt at installing the No RC 3.01 MSI package
AdG (which needed three attempts at RitLabs to get it more or less
AdG working). That really sucked. In
Hello Leif,
Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 17:25:46, you wrote:
LG This thread has gone on for quite a while with no apparent conclusion
LG in sight and is going to have to be a case of Agree to Disagree.
LG Please do not post anything else to this thread.
Sorry Leif. My reply was being sent
Hello Arjan,
You may or may not have read my contribution on TBBeta about my
(failed) attempt at installing the No RC 3.01 MSI package
(which needed three attempts at RitLabs to get it more or less
working). That really sucked. In my opinion RitLabs could have
easily avoided the problems by
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:25:07 +0200, MAU wrote:
And yes, this experience has 1) annoyed me,
Maybe because you don't understand what this is all about.
So why don't you enlighten me and please explain to me what
this is all about?
2) strengthened my intention to avoid version 3, at least
for the
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