> -Original Message-
> From: Bonnie Granat
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:47 PM
> To: 'TCP List'
> Subject: Re: [TCP] ranting STC RE: What did you learn when
> youparticipatedinthe
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> Part of quality leadership is getting done what must be done,
> by whatever means are necessary
Well said. Really, very well said.
You can have good leaders. But, if the members are uninvolved or
apathetic, then what do you expect?
Sure, Websites can be better. Newsletters can feature real content.
Meetings can provide training, education, and a real measurable ROI. But
how do you get those
On 2/23/07, Brierley, Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can have good leaders. But, if the members are uninvolved or
> apathetic, then what do you expect?
I expect the leaders to stop trying to appeal to the uninvolved and
the apathetic, and to get on with business.
Can't manage a x page Web
I certainly understand your position. Stop trying to appeal to the
uninvolved and apathetic ... that's fine. I understand there are folks
who pay their $160 and really just want to sit back and relax with the
membership, and are not interested in getting more than that.
I am appealing to those who
On 2/23/07, Brierley, Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, add a blog? Doesn't that add to the burden you already
> had with the Website, aren't you adding more work needing more
> resources?
A blog *instead of* a newsletter. Lots of people won't like it
(according to a thread I started over on
But why not post articles to the Website?
Why add the overhead of a blog?
Cheers,
Sean
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On Behalf Of Milan Davidovic
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:31 AM
To: TCP List
Subject: Re: [TCP] ranting STC RE: What did you
On 2/23/07, Brierley, Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why add the overhead of a blog?
Even better. I'm just a guy with a hammer, and everything looks like a
nail -- thanks for calling me on it.
--
Milan Davidovic
http://altmilan.blogspot.com
http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758
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> It cannot all be done by the leadership. The lead have to step up.
> If you want better from the STC, you have to step up.
Agreed.
I wasn't happy with what STC was doing, so 18 months ago, I joined.
You can't open your mouth about a problem if you aren't willing to be
part of the solution.
Tw
> Part of quality leadership is getting done what must be done, by whatever
> means are necessary and proper. If I were the president of STC, I would
> demand that the website be as close to perfect as possible -- so well done
> that a professional editor could not come along and find multiple erro
>
> During my brief STC membership (3 years), I found the print publications
> to be as consistent as the Web site.
>
And you did... what about it?
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
http://techcommdood.blo
On 2/23/07, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't wait for them to farm work out to you - find the right
> people to talk to and drive the results you want to see.
Making it about what you want rather than what you think someone else
needs (let them push back if they don't agree with you
Sweet. That's what I'm on about.
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From: John Posada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:10 AM
To: Brierley, Sean; TCP List
Subject: Re: [TCP] ranting STC RE: What did you learn when
youparticipatedin the
> It cannot all be done by the leadership
Not at all. You never want to work in a vacuum, especially with regard
to communities. But by waiting for someone to give you something to do
you are only moving as fast as that person will allow. Be proactive
and actively take on work and get it done. Usually that gives others
the kick in the butt
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Swallow
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:21 AM
> To: Dan Goldstein
> Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com
> Subject: Re: [TCP] ranting STC RE: What did you learn when
> youparticipatedinthe
>
> >
> > During my brief STC membership (3 years), I found the print
>
On 2/23/07, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You never want to work in a vacuum, especially with regard
> to communities.
But I *do* want to work on what interests *me*. Stuff that's on the
leaders' agenda often doesn't. At the same time, though, if they're
not interested in what I want t
I'm still very unhappy with my recent experience with STC re: _Technical
Communication_ journal.
Wrote to the editor to complain that the typeface was so small and busy, and
the layout was so crowded, that I literally could not read the thing.
To his credit, he did respond quickly.
Unhappily, h
Ya'know...I had the same experience.
Except my problem was that reading them wasn't FUN any longer, so I
asked them if they could switch to a really fun font called
"Critter".
They LAUGHED at me.
Well...you can imagine how upset I was...I mean, this did nothing to
address my customer complaint
Bill Swallow wrote:
Yeah but "perfect" and "useful" are not the same, and I would take
useful over perfect any day. Striving for useful is far more beneficial
than striving for perfect.
I think Bill has a wonderful point, and it goes along with an exampl
Then those leaders are working in a vacuum and is having a negative
effect, because it's causing you, the eager STC member, to go home and
do your own thing.
On 2/23/07, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/23/07, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You never want to work in a
> It's coming around. I've bot been a STC supporter for many years but
> recently there have been good changes and I like what I'm seeing.
Sheesh, I can't even keep my own posts free of typos... bot = not
I'm not a Stepford Writer ;-)
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior
> Wrote to the editor to complain that the typeface was so small and busy, and
> the layout was so crowded, that I literally could not read the thing.
>
> To his credit, he did respond quickly.
>
> Unhappily, his only response was to tell me that it had won several
> publication awards.
Ah, a real
On 2/23/07, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then those leaders are working in a vacuum and is having a negative
> effect
Well, I wouldn't say *that*. I've connected with them more times than
I've missed. On the other hand, there have been plenty of times when
they've come up with somethi
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