Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-08 Thread Guy Harris via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Jan 8, 2023, at 5:24 AM, Denis Ovsienko wrote: > Thank you for this information. Let me add that Ubuntu 20.04 defaults > to 2.69, but Ubuntu 22.04, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OmniOS all > currently default to Autoconf 2.71. ...and macOS doesn't ship with autoconf in

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-08 Thread Denis Ovsienko via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 18:47:37 -0800 Guy Harris wrote: > On Jan 7, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Denis Ovsienko > wrote: > > > On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 17:13:20 -0800 > > Guy Harris wrote: > > > >> On Jan 6, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Denis Ovsienko > >> wrote: > >> > >>> It is the latter, and

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-07 Thread Guy Harris via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Jan 7, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Denis Ovsienko wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 17:13:20 -0800 > Guy Harris wrote: > >> On Jan 6, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Denis Ovsienko >> wrote: >> >>> It is the latter, and a custom Autoconf seems an unreasonable >>> requirement for contributing.

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-07 Thread Francois-Xavier Le Bail via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On 07/01/2023 20:13, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Francois-Xavier Le Bail via tcpdump-workers wrote: > > Or don't generate it and have the build process be: > > ./autogen.sh && ./configure && ... > > That just leads to non-deterministic builds for everyone :-(

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-07 Thread Francois-Xavier Le Bail via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On 06/01/2023 21:38, Francois-Xavier Le Bail via tcpdump-workers wrote: >> As some have experienced before, attempts to regenerate the configure >> script often result in two groups of unnecessary changes (runstatedir >> and LARGE_OFF_T), both of which come from

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-07 Thread Denis Ovsienko via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 17:13:20 -0800 Guy Harris wrote: > On Jan 6, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Denis Ovsienko > wrote: > > > It is the latter, and a custom Autoconf seems an unreasonable > > requirement for contributing. > > Reasonable, or unreasonable? Unreasonable, if it is more

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-07 Thread Francois-Xavier Le Bail via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On 06/01/2023 23:49, Guy Harris via tcpdump-workers wrote: > An alternative would be *not* to keep the generated configure script in the > repository (that's what Wireshark ended up doing before it ceased to use > autoconf/automake), and generate it as part of the

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-06 Thread Guy Harris via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Jan 6, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Denis Ovsienko wrote: > It is the latter, and a custom Autoconf seems an unreasonable > requirement for contributing. Reasonable, or unreasonable? Whatever version is chosen as the standard autoconf, if the goal is to have the version of the

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-06 Thread Denis Ovsienko via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:49:54 -0800 Guy Harris wrote: > On Jan 6, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Denis Ovsienko > wrote: > > > On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 13:25:14 -0800 > > Guy Harris wrote: > > > >> If we switch to making Debian Autoconf the new standard and keeping > >> the generated

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-06 Thread Guy Harris via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Jan 6, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Denis Ovsienko wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 13:25:14 -0800 > Guy Harris wrote: > >> If we switch to making Debian Autoconf the new standard and keeping >> the generated configure script in the repository, would that mean >> that developers

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-06 Thread Denis Ovsienko via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 13:25:14 -0800 Guy Harris wrote: > If we switch to making Debian Autoconf the new standard and keeping > the generated configure script in the repository, would that mean > that developers working from the repository would either have to > install Debian

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-06 Thread Guy Harris via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On Jan 4, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Denis Ovsienko via tcpdump-workers wrote: > As some have experienced before, attempts to regenerate the configure > script often result in two groups of unnecessary changes (runstatedir > and LARGE_OFF_T), both of which come from Debian-specific

Re: [tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-06 Thread Francois-Xavier Le Bail via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- On 04/01/2023 23:30, Denis Ovsienko via tcpdump-workers wrote: > As some have experienced before, attempts to regenerate the configure > script often result in two groups of unnecessary changes (runstatedir > and LARGE_OFF_T), both of which come from Debian-specific patches

[tcpdump-workers] Autoconf with Debian patches

2023-01-04 Thread Denis Ovsienko via tcpdump-workers
--- Begin Message --- Hello all. As some have experienced before, attempts to regenerate the configure script often result in two groups of unnecessary changes (runstatedir and LARGE_OFF_T), both of which come from Debian-specific patches to Autoconf because traditionally the configure scripts