[tcpinc] Stepping down as chair

2016-04-12 Thread Mirja Kühlewind
Hi tcpinc wg, as already announced, I am stepping down as tcpinc co-chair. I’m very happy to see that tcpinc is progressing smoothly at this point! Of course, I will further follow the working group, as the responsible AD. Therefore I’m still open to help with any questions or concerns. Please

Re: [tcpinc] Confirmation of consensus to adopt API document

2016-04-12 Thread Joe Touch
On 4/12/2016 8:17 AM, Kyle Rose wrote: >> The IESG statement is worded poorly at best. It appears to me to imply >> "when picking between MIB and Netconf/YANG models, pick the latter". > > This is how I read it, as well. > >> An abstract API should never need to get into such a level of detail

Re: [tcpinc] Confirmation of consensus to adopt API document

2016-04-12 Thread Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)
> > An abstract API should never need to get into such a level of detail > > to require a particular implementation. If you're aiming for something > > beyond that, IMO the IETF is the wrong place (e.g., a better place > > would be POSIX). > To this point, does it make sense to use a common

Re: [tcpinc] Confirmation of consensus to adopt API document

2016-04-12 Thread Kyle Rose
> The IESG statement is worded poorly at best. It appears to me to imply > "when picking between MIB and Netconf/YANG models, pick the latter". This is how I read it, as well. > An abstract API should never need to get into such a level of detail to > require a particular implementation. If

Re: [tcpinc] Confirmation of consensus to adopt API document

2016-04-12 Thread Joe Touch
On 4/12/2016 3:05 AM, Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE) wrote: > The link is in my first e-mail: > https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/writable-mib-module.html > > The relevant sentence is: "IETF working groups are therefore encouraged to > use the NETCONF/YANG standards for configuration,

Re: [tcpinc] Confirmation of consensus to adopt API document

2016-04-12 Thread Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)
The link is in my first e-mail: https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/writable-mib-module.html The relevant sentence is: "IETF working groups are therefore encouraged to use the NETCONF/YANG standards for configuration, especially in new charters." Section 2.2 of draft-bittau-tcpinc-api-01

Re: [tcpinc] Confirmation of consensus to adopt API document

2016-04-12 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 12/04/16 10:54, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Michael, > > Which of the IESG statements listed at [1] do you mean? > That's not clear to me, sorry, Ah sorry now I see the URL:-) I doubt that there'll be a problem for this draft from the IESG, other than the usual nitpicking. That is, unless

Re: [tcpinc] Confirmation of consensus to adopt API document

2016-04-12 Thread Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE)
Inline -Original Message- From: EXT David Mazieres [mailto:dm-list-tcpcr...@scs.stanford.edu] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:52 PM To: Scharf, Michael (Nokia - DE); EXT Kyle Rose; tcpinc Subject: Re: [tcpinc] Confirmation of consensus to adopt API document "Scharf, Michael (Nokia -