Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

I've been tinkering with it over the last week and while I really like that it has estimation and velocity tracking I dislike that I only have a fixed set of columns to work with, filtering requires more steps, and I find that it takes me longer to figure out what's going on. I feel like the app t

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

Hi, On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 02:13:09PM -0700, Arthur Richards wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > > Does > > Mingle have data export functions? > > > > Yes. Mingle only exports a full project in a proprietary serialized format, > but you can also selectively export c

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On 11/14/2013 03:48 PM, Steven Walling wrote: This brings up a big issue with both FOSS and proprietary tools: how do we get our data out and migrate it if necessary? Yes, with proprietary tools we're at the mercy of the vendor. This is particularly an issue with software as a service, since

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > > > On Thursday, November 14, 2013, Luis Villa wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Steven Walling >> wrote: >> >>> A logistical point: Pivotal is proprietary. It's a small company based >>> in SF and owned by VMWare. However, th

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Thursday, November 14, 2013, Luis Villa wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Steven Walling > > > wrote: > >> A logistical point: Pivotal is proprietary. It's a small company based in >> SF and owned by VMWare. However, they officially give free unlimited access >> perpetually to publi

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Thursday, November 14, 2013, Arthur Richards wrote: > Ok, Pivotal Tracker actually looks pretty slick. You don't get the same > level of customization that you do with Mingle. AFAICT with about 20 mins > of poking around (so I could be wrong about some of this), you cant create > arbitrary card

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > A logistical point: Pivotal is proprietary. It's a small company based in > SF and owned by VMWare. However, they officially give free unlimited access > perpetually to public projects and non-profits. s/VMWare/EMC/ FWIW, I've heard from

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

Ok, Pivotal Tracker actually looks pretty slick. You don't get the same level of customization that you do with Mingle. AFAICT with about 20 mins of poking around (so I could be wrong about some of this), you cant create arbitrary card types, enforce arbitrary workflows, create and save custom view

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > > This brings up a big issue with both FOSS and proprietary tools: how do we > get our data out and migrate it if necessary? > > Trello exports a board in JSON, and Pivotal will import/export CSV. Does > Mingle have data export functions? >

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > Luckily, we're still under the "each team does what it wants" system, so > no forced migrations at any point, that I know of. I think of all these tool as part of finite toolbox (unless you have a Tardis [1]) that everyone uses. Some hamm

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Toby Negrin wrote: > I'm going to be a bit cranky here but the analytics team has but a lot of > effort into getting our data into Mingle. Personally, I've used better > systems but it's the weather at this point. > > I don't have a lot of room in the backlog for

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

> I'm going to be a bit cranky here but the analytics team has but a lot of > effort into getting our data into Mingle. Personally, I've used better > systems but it's the weather at this point. > > I don't have a lot of room in the backlog for data migration so I'd like > point out that the impa

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > *TL;DR: *to me it looks like Pivotal Tracker does everything we need from > Mingle, and is a helluva lot easier to use and understand for people new to > Scrum or only lightly in to it. Please play around, and if you want I can > invite you

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

I'm going to be a bit cranky here but the analytics team has but a lot of effort into getting our data into Mingle. Personally, I've used better systems but it's the weather at this point. I don't have a lot of room in the backlog for data migration so I'd like point out that the impact of changin

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

> > I refactored https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_management_tools I added iceScrum ( http://www.icescrum.org/en/ ) to the list. It is Opensource and it has automatic charts, and the basics to support scrum. I used it in a former company (about 2 years ago) but I didn't made such an intensi

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > Does this mean we get to hire an internal tools team someday? :) Absolutely, we will get to hire an internal tools team someday. Someday is a nicely relative agile time estimate - maybe I'll give you a burndown chart to go along with it. ;

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > It would be great to try Fulcrum (https://github.com/malclocke/fulcrum), > especially if we're considering switching away from Trello. It's an open > source reimplementation of Pivotal Tracker. > Yeah I'd be willing to give this one a s

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On 11/14/2013 12:28 AM, Diederik van Liere wrote: Would it be an idea to make a shortlist of serious alternatives to Trello and Mingle, both open source and proprietary tools, and compare them? For example, I would like to have a look at kanbanery.com but I am sure that ot

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > I'm totally in favor of experimenting with, using and assessing > different tools, free or proprietary, and seeing which one works best. > But let's keep our eyes on the prize in the long run - a 100% open > source toolset for supporting tea

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

I'm totally in favor of experimenting with, using and assessing different tools, free or proprietary, and seeing which one works best. But let's keep our eyes on the prize in the long run - a 100% open source toolset for supporting teams. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, W

Re: [teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > Hey all, > > In previous discussions, we've leaned toward calling Trello and Mingle a > pair of complementary tools, with the former being good for small teams and > the latter being good for large teams. I think this is probably true. > >

[teampractices] Experimenting with Pivotal Tracker

Hey all, In previous discussions, we've leaned toward calling Trello and Mingle a pair of complementary tools, with the former being good for small teams and the latter being good for large teams. I think this is probably true. Tomasz said that he's already running in to the limitations of Trello