Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-07-12 Thread david
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Brent Chapman wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM, A. Dreyer (LOPSA) wrote: On 28/06/10 15:51, Jeremy Charles wrote: From: Jeff Wasilko [mailto:je...@smoe.org] Why not build a dedicated VLAN that carries only iSCSI traffic to your DMZ and only has the required server

Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-29 Thread A. Dreyer (LOPSA)
On 28/06/10 20:26, Brent Chapman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM, A. Dreyer (LOPSA) > I assume you both know that VLANs are just an administrative tool not a > security measurement and that for "real" security the switches with > external/DMZ VLANs should be *physically* sepa

Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-28 Thread Tracy Reed
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:26:58PM -0700, Brent Chapman spake thusly: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM, A. Dreyer (LOPSA) > wrote: > > I assume you both know that VLANs are just an administrative tool not a > > security measurement and that for "real" security the switches with > > external/DMZ

Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-28 Thread Matt Simmons
If a switch is leaking broadcast traffic across all VLANs, the issue isn't with VLAN technology, it's with a (very) stupid implementation. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2010-06-28 at 12:26 -0700, Brent Chapman wrote: >> Everybody says "but what if the switch somehow le

Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-28 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2010-06-28 at 12:26 -0700, Brent Chapman wrote: > Everybody says "but what if the switch somehow leaks packets from one VLAN > to another?" Well, what if the switch ACLs didn't work, and passed traffic > that it shouldn't? Those would both be major security bugs, drawing a quick > response fro

Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-28 Thread Brent Chapman
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM, A. Dreyer (LOPSA) wrote: > On 28/06/10 15:51, Jeremy Charles wrote: > > From: Jeff Wasilko [mailto:je...@smoe.org] > >> Why not build a dedicated VLAN that carries only iSCSI traffic to your > >> DMZ and only has the required servers on that network? > > > > That

Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-28 Thread A. Dreyer (LOPSA)
On 28/06/10 15:51, Jeremy Charles wrote: > From: Jeff Wasilko [mailto:je...@smoe.org] >> Why not build a dedicated VLAN that carries only iSCSI traffic to your >> DMZ and only has the required servers on that network? > > That would also require separate iSCSI storage hardware (the targets). >

Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-28 Thread Jeremy Charles
From: Jeff Wasilko [mailto:je...@smoe.org] > Why not build a dedicated VLAN that carries only iSCSI traffic to your > DMZ and only has the required servers on that network? That would also require separate iSCSI storage hardware (the targets). That's more expensive, so it's Plan C. __

Re: [lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-28 Thread Jeff Wasilko
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:45:38AM -0500, Jeremy Charles wrote: > We have servers in the DMZ that the server admins and storage guys would like > to use iSCSI with. The problem that us network/security guys see is that the > iSCSI network is connected to a bunch of servers that are on the inside

[lopsa-tech] iSCSI HBA

2010-06-28 Thread Jeremy Charles
We have servers in the DMZ that the server admins and storage guys would like to use iSCSI with. The problem that us network/security guys see is that the iSCSI network is connected to a bunch of servers that are on the inside network. Since the OS of the server can see the iSCSI network (soft