Re: utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-14 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: - posix_openpt(), grantpt(), unlockpt() and ptsname(), and - utmpx. This causes a real burden on people trying to write network login services, terminal emulators, terminal

Re: utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-14 Thread Mark Kettenis
From: na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:28:47 + (UTC) Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: - posix_openpt(), grantpt(), unlockpt() and ptsname(), and - utmpx. This causes a real burden on people trying to write network login

utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-13 Thread Ed Schouten
Hi folks, I sent an email to tedu@ the other day, but I thought it may be better to just send it to tech@ to see whether we can sort this out. After I implemented utmpx for FreeBSD, I realized OpenBSD is the only commonly used maintained UNIX-like operating system which doesn't implement: -

Re: utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
This causes a real burden on people trying to write network login services, terminal emulators, terminal multiplexers, etc. it is really hard to take you serious when you say that every year, to us.

Re: utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
I sent an email to tedu@ the other day, but I thought it may be better to just send it to tech@ to see whether we can sort this out. After I implemented utmpx for FreeBSD, I realized OpenBSD is the only commonly used maintained UNIX-like operating system which doesn't implement: -

Re: utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-13 Thread Ed Schouten
Hi Theo, * Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: First off, to get that off the plate, we don't have the POSIX, no call it what it is --- SVR4 -- pty stuff because it is a gigantic race. It was designed in response to the pty race research by Dan Bernstein, but the result was that the

Re: utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-13 Thread Theo de Raadt
* Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: First off, to get that off the plate, we don't have the POSIX, no call it what it is --- SVR4 -- pty stuff because it is a gigantic race. It was designed in response to the pty race research by Dan Bernstein, but the result was that the SVR4

Re: utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-13 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: - posix_openpt(), grantpt(), unlockpt() and ptsname(), and - utmpx. This causes a real burden on people trying to write network login services, terminal emulators, terminal multiplexers, etc. You are killing us with hyperbole. Well, I

Re: utmpx for OpenBSD

2010-07-13 Thread Josh Elsasser
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:28:47PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: - posix_openpt(), grantpt(), unlockpt() and ptsname(), and - utmpx. This causes a real burden on people trying to write network login services, terminal emulators,