Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-25 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Sat, 25 Feb 2017 18:13:34 +1100 From:matthew green Message-ID: <14043.1488006...@splode.eterna.com.au> | there's a rough ability to "guess" you have a matching kernel/kmem | groveller based upon the version. eg, crash(8) will notice a | mismatch and tell y

re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-25 Thread matthew green
> | * changes to things that kmem grovelers chase > > I don't think kernel version bumps really help there either - for those > I think it is normal just to expect that a kmem groveller (of which there > are not many left, fortunately) might need to match the kernel version if > it is to be expe

re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-24 Thread matthew green
> I'm evaluating it from the osabi (pkgsrc term) point of view. I'm > targeting LLDB for 7.99.62+. If the kernel bump approach is reserved for > loadable kernel modules, I will follow this in future changes. it's about whether code is expected to work in that kernel environment or not. it's not j

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-24 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Fri, 24 Feb 2017 19:24:34 +0800 (PHT) From:Paul Goyette Message-ID: | In many cases, one might just "ride the previous bump" Yes, I've seen that happen several times, but it would be much nicer to predict the bump, than to react to it. kre

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-24 Thread Paul Goyette
On Fri, 24 Feb 2017, Robert Elz wrote: Date:Fri, 24 Feb 2017 09:04:36 +0100 From:Martin Husemann Message-ID: <20170224080436.gb1...@mail.duskware.de> | (and we already had a bump just a few hours earlier). It would indeed be useful if, when a change that requires a

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-24 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Fri, 24 Feb 2017 09:04:36 +0100 From:Martin Husemann Message-ID: <20170224080436.gb1...@mail.duskware.de> | (and we already had a bump just a few hours earlier). It would indeed be useful if, when a change that requires a kernel version change is expected to

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-24 Thread Martin Husemann
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:57:36PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > My bump was still legitimate as I changed size of amd64 and i386 struct > lwp - I removed one MD field. Yeah, that is all fine. I was just confused because the specific commit did not seem to want a bump, and while numbers are ple

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-23 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:57:36 +0100 From:Kamil Rytarowski Message-ID: | My bump was still legitimate as I changed size of amd64 and i386 struct | lwp - I removed one MD field. Yes, I agree, and said that in my first message in this thread, before it mprphed in

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-23 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
On 23.02.2017 09:48, Robert Elz wrote: > Date:Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:32:16 +0800 (PHT) > From:Paul Goyette > Message-ID: > > | On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > | > | > I'm evaluating it from the osabi (pkgsrc term) point of view. I'm > | > targeti

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-23 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:32:16 +0800 (PHT) From:Paul Goyette Message-ID: | On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: | | > I'm evaluating it from the osabi (pkgsrc term) point of view. I'm | > targeting LLDB for 7.99.62+. The kernel version number is a h

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-22 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
On 23.02.2017 08:32, Paul Goyette wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > >> I'm evaluating it from the osabi (pkgsrc term) point of view. I'm >> targeting LLDB for 7.99.62+. If the kernel bump approach is reserved for >> loadable kernel modules, I will follow this in future chan

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-22 Thread Paul Goyette
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: I'm evaluating it from the osabi (pkgsrc term) point of view. I'm targeting LLDB for 7.99.62+. If the kernel bump approach is reserved for loadable kernel modules, I will follow this in future changes. Modules (and specifically, their interfaces to

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-22 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
On 23.02.2017 07:23, Robert Elz wrote: > Date:Thu, 23 Feb 2017 05:29:41 + > From:Martin Husemann > Message-ID: <20170223052941.ga29...@homeworld.netbsd.org> > > | Does this kind of change really require a version bump? > > That one didn't, but there was anoth

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-22 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Thu, 23 Feb 2017 05:29:41 + From:Martin Husemann Message-ID: <20170223052941.ga29...@homeworld.netbsd.org> | Does this kind of change really require a version bump? That one didn't, but there was another checkin, 5 or 6 mins earlier, which changed (added t

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/sys

2017-02-22 Thread Martin Husemann
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 03:48:20AM +, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > Module Name: src > Committed By: kamil > Date: Thu Feb 23 03:48:20 UTC 2017 > > Modified Files: > src/sys/sys: param.h > > Log Message: > Welcome to 7.99.62! > > New ptrace(2) operations: > - PT_RESUME > - PT_SU