Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-29 Thread Mouse
>> It appears to be specifying pax's behaviour, not tar's. [...] > POSIX used to specify tar, long ago, but there were (as I understand > it) too many incompat variants, so it was dropped. Not entirely surprising. > You should have been expecting that as the link you were given ended > in pax.ht

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Sat, 28 Oct 2023 23:32:56 -0400 (EDT) From:Mouse Message-ID: <202310290332.xaa23...@stone.rodents-montreal.org> | It appears to be specifying pax's behaviour, not tar's. Is tar | specified to use the same format by reference, or is tar not specified | but

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread Mouse
>> So there _is_ a POSIX spec for tarchives? [...] > https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/pax.html#tag_20_92_13_06 I got that fetched and have been going through it. It appears to be specifying pax's behaviour, not tar's. Is tar specified to use the same format by referenc

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread Mouse
>> So there _is_ a POSIX spec for tarchives? [...] > https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/pax.html#tag_20_92_13_06 I'll have to scare up a work machine to fetch that from, since apparently pubs.opengroup.org is not interested in serving content over HTTP. But that should be

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sunday, October 29, 2023 2:29:47 AM CET Mouse wrote: > > I don't think any one else cares about pre-ustar. Pretty much any > > reader and writer around uses at least ustar and generally wants to > > have extended POSIX as well when caring about large files. > > So there _is_ a POSIX spec for t

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread Taylor R Campbell
> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:29:47 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mouse > > So there _is_ a POSIX spec for tarchives? Is the spec available, or is > this yet another pay-to-play "standard"? I've gone looking for specs > for tar before, but each time I have, I've been unable to find anything > that isn't be

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread Mouse
> I don't think any one else cares about pre-ustar. Pretty much any > reader and writer around uses at least ustar and generally wants to > have extended POSIX as well when caring about large files. So there _is_ a POSIX spec for tarchives? Is the spec available, or is this yet another pay-to-pl

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread Mouse
>> (It doesn't help that I haven't managed to find a clear spec for tar >> format; the closest I've found so far is a description of what pax, >> in its (supposedly-)tar-compatible mode, is supposed to read/write.) > All of this can be found in: > src/external/bsd/libarchive/dist/libarchive/archive

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sunday, October 29, 2023 12:40:06 AM CEST RVP wrote: > On Sat, 28 Oct 2023, Mouse wrote: > > I'm having trouble seeing what's responsible, and in particular am > > wondering whether this is my bug or /bin/tar's bug or what. (It > > doesn't help that I haven't managed to find a clear spec for ta

Re: tar vs device special files

2023-10-28 Thread RVP
On Sat, 28 Oct 2023, Mouse wrote: I'm having trouble seeing what's responsible, and in particular am wondering whether this is my bug or /bin/tar's bug or what. (It doesn't help that I haven't managed to find a clear spec for tar format; the closest I've found so far is a description of what pa