Re: [Fedora QA] #89: Improve tracking blocker review status

2010-12-06 Thread Fedora QA
#89: Improve tracking blocker review status --+- Reporter: jlaska | Owner: poelstra Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: major| Milestone: Fedora 14 Component

Re: [Fedora QA] #89: Improve tracking blocker review status

2010-12-06 Thread Fedora QA
#89: Improve tracking blocker review status --+- Reporter: jlaska | Owner: poelstra Type: enhancement | Status: assigned Priority: major| Milestone: Fedora 14 Component

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 14:30 -0500, Jan Wildeboer wrote: > A mantainer who doesn't care about the bugs in his package may be > everything - but not a maintainer. It is that simple. Maintaining a package > means caring, not doing sth once in a while. again, out of the scope of the QA list. The pro

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 19:46 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:11:25 -0800, Adam wrote: > > > > Too many tickets, too many reminders. After six months, the reporter maybe > > > doesn't even work on the same software anymore. > > > > 'I don't use this any more, so let's leave

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 18:45 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 12/06/2010 06:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > the maintainers do get mails. there's not a lot we can do about > > maintainers who simply don't deal with their bugs. > > Yes we can. > > For example we can implement a policy t

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 18:39 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Changing bug status to NEEDINFO from reporter should only be done when > information contained within the bug is incomplete, and additional > information from the original submitter is required to confirm the bug > so could the

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 16:50 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:08:35 -0500, James wrote: > > > The alternative is silently > > closing EOL'd bugs. I don't think silently closing bugs works well with > > the principle of least surprise. > > The alternative is to communicate w

Re: updates improvements/changes ideas

2010-12-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:44:02 -0500 James Laska wrote: ...snip... > So there is a lag time for mirrors to receive updates. Does anyone > know what that average time for mirrors to update is? It varies. I've been doing pushes every day for a while now, I start them in the morning and they usua

Re: updates improvements/changes ideas

2010-12-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:40:25 -0500 James Laska wrote: ...snip... > > * setup a remote test env that people could use to test things. > > I could use more details on this point. Is this talking about setting > up QA systems hosted in Fedora infrastructure that any tester could > login and use t

[Test-Announce] Please Help Test 389 Directory Server 1.2.7.2

2010-12-06 Thread Rich Megginson
389-ds-base-1.2.7.2 is now in Testing. This release has some key fixes for bugs in 1.2.7 and 1.2.7.1. Please help us test. The sooner we can get this release tested, the sooner we can push it to Stable and make it generally available. There is also a new 389-admin-1.1.13 package. Installatio

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 09:46:18 pm Monday, December 06, 2010 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 12/06/2010 06:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > They don't have to. If you filed a bug that you can't follow up on any > > more, in the general case, you can just say so, and close it. In this > > case, you don't have to lif

Fedora 13 updates-testing report

2010-12-06 Thread updates
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openttd-1.0.5-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bind-9.7.2-1.P3.fc13,bind-dyndb-ldap-0.1.0-0.10.a1.20091210git.fc13,dnsperf-1.0.1.0-19.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updat

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Jan Wildeboer
A mantainer who doesn't care about the bugs in his package may be everything - but not a maintainer. It is that simple. Maintaining a package means caring, not doing sth once in a while. Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:11:25 -0800, Adam wrote: > > Too many tickets, too many reminders. After six months, the reporter maybe > > doesn't even work on the same software anymore. > > 'I don't use this any more, so let's leave it closed'. Takes three > seconds. It takes even less time to delete t

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/06/2010 06:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > the maintainers do get mails. there's not a lot we can do about > maintainers who simply don't deal with their bugs. Yes we can. For example we can implement a policy that strip their packaging rights and orphan the package, if no one claims the p

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/06/2010 06:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > They don't have to. If you filed a bug that you can't follow up on any > more, in the general case, you can just say so, and close it. In this > case, you don't have to lift a finger, because the bug will get > automatically closed soon anyway. That'

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 12:18 +0200, cornel panceac wrote: > however, warning the reporter that the bug is closed is a good thing, > imho. but i also believe that, when the maintainer didn't ever > commented the bug report, he should receive a mail too, and this, as > michael schwendt suggested, sho

sendmail testing for f13

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
there must be someone out there using sendmail on f13; if so, could you please karma up https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sendmail-8.14.4-6.fc13 . it's been languishing in -testing for nearly a month now...thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwi

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 01:30 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 10:06:03 +1000, Brendan wrote: > > > > > > > On 12/04/2010 02:15 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > Where do reporters opt out from this process? > > > > Is it really so bad? This gentle reminder simply gives

2010-12-06 - Fedora QA meeting recap

2010-12-06 Thread James Laska
As always, minutes and IRC log available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20101206 = Attendees = People present (lines said) * jlaska (153) * adamw (58) * kparal (26) * pjones (23) * nirik (13) * mdomsch2 (9) * mkrizek (6) * fenrus02

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/06/2010 03:50 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > The earlier automated (!) NEEDINFO request could also be used to point at > a bug reporting HOWTO once more. And to repeat the request for a comment > on the reproducibility and how to reproduce a problem. Probably better to point the reporter to t

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:08:35 -0500, James wrote: > The alternative is silently > closing EOL'd bugs. I don't think silently closing bugs works well with > the principle of least surprise. The alternative is to communicate with the reporter much earlier. 1) When there is a stable update of the pa

2010-12-06 @ ** 16:00 UTC ** - Fedora QA meeting

2010-12-06 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2010-12-06 # Time: 16:00 UTC (11:00 EST, 17:00 CET) [1] # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings all, I don't have an abundance of discussion topics for today, so we'll keep it short and sweet and check-in on the usual suspects. As alwa

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Cronenworth
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Ye must realize that maintainers will shit all over reporters claiming > that they do not respond reports and what not by doing what the > bugzapper script or abrt is doing. If you're not willing to look over bug reports for /your/ bugs that are fixing to be CLOSE

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 13:56 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 12/06/2010 01:16 PM, James Laska wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 00:42 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> On 12/05/2010 12:06 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > >>> Is it really so bad? > >> Yes and reporters should be able to

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/06/2010 01:16 PM, James Laska wrote: > On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 00:42 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 12/05/2010 12:06 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: >>> Is it really so bad? >> Yes and reporters should be able to opt out from this process chooses >> they do so. > They can. Turn off email

Re: [Fedora QA] #154: Tracker: critical path test case creation

2010-12-06 Thread Fedora QA
#154: Tracker: critical path test case creation --+- Reporter: adamwill | Owner: adamwill Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major| Milestone: Fedora 15 Component: Wiki

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread James Laska
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 00:42 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 12/05/2010 12:06 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > > Is it really so bad? > > Yes and reporters should be able to opt out from this process chooses > they do so. They can. Turn off email notification for your bugzilla account, or d

rawhide report: 20101206 changes

2010-12-06 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Dec 6 08:15:05 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- balsa-2.4.9-1.fc15.x86_64 requires libesmtp.so.5()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64