systemd F15 yum-updateonboot\createrepo\local

2011-04-22 Thread Frank Murphy
How can I force systemd to halt booting until: yum-updateonboot has finished downloading, yum-local has finished storing re-creating local repo (nas\nfs mount) and all is updated. info at: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd has not helped me in this. -- Regards, Frank Murphy

Fedora 15 Beta Firewall

2011-04-22 Thread Robert M. Albrecht
Hi, I did a clean install. Browsing the network does work neither for fileshares nor for printers (cups). Disabling the firewall enables the local browsing again. Is this a bug or a feature ? Regards, Robert -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: Multiple F15Beta bugs in under an hour

2011-04-22 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 21.4.2011 15:51, Adam Jackson napsal(a): It's even easier than that. Click on the black title bar in the Display capplet and move it to the monitor you want it to appear on. Unfortunately, it took me twenty minutes before I figured out this one. ... :( Matěj -- test mailing list

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: This is the case with pretty much any desktop. They're fundamentally sufficiently complex that you can either have very discoverable (but inefficient) or efficient (but not so discoverable), and all desktops I've

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/22/2011 11:37 AM, Angel wrote: A .desktop file needs to be placed in /usr/share/Applications or ~/.local/share/applications/. Great - Aunt Tillie can learn to use Emacs and XML at the same time .. yay ... certainly new and different as one poster put it ... better .. time till

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/22/2011 11:57 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 04/22/2011 11:37 AM, Angel wrote: A .desktop file needs to be placed in /usr/share/Applications or ~/.local/share/applications/. Someone made a comparison to Mac OS being new and different as a goal - that was not the case - the Mac

Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Up until now, the fallback mode has preserved (to an approximation) my older panel setup - a single panel, not full width, on the bottom. Today all that's gone; now I have two panels. My launchers are gone, as is a fair amount of my vertical screen space. Is this deliberate? If so, why? It

systemd and memory

2011-04-22 Thread Scott Robbins
I'm using F15 beta full time now. I note that when I run top, systemd is using memory and cpu resources. Memory especially seems rather high. (This is just running top, when I was wondering why the system was suddenly slowing down. -- VIRT RES SHR

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:09, Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote: Up until now, the fallback mode has preserved (to an approximation) my older panel setup - a single panel, not full width, on the bottom. Today all that's gone; now I have two panels. My launchers are gone, as is a fair

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 04/22/2011 06:09 PM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: Up until now, the fallback mode has preserved (to an approximation) my older panel setup - a single panel, not full width, on the bottom. Today all that's gone; now I have two panels. My launchers are gone, as is a fair amount of my vertical

Re: systemd and memory

2011-04-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/4/22 Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com: I'm using F15 beta full time now.  I note that when I run top, systemd is using memory and cpu resources.   Memory especially seems rather high.  (This is just running top, when I was wondering why the system was suddenly slowing down.

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 13:15, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: I am seeing the same thing you are (on F15), so I don't think it is a rawhide only issue. If you find a solution I'd like to hear about it. I can't change the preferences from the desktop. The launchers I had have

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:05:31 -0500, JDC wrote: I'm not a Fedora packager but I do read these mailing lists consistently and it's pretty clear from discussion in the past few weeks that the situation is--essentially--the following: In an ideal world, rawhide would be updated at the same time

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 14:10, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly that ought not happen. Instead, Rawhide would typically move ahead of the F-15 branch due to packagers dropping even newer stuff into Rawhide [1], and then updates to F-15 branched no longer inherit from

TESTING Fedora-15-Nightly-20110421.22-i686-Live-soas.iso and Fedora-15-Nightly-20110421.22-i686-Live-desktop.iso with sugar-emulator

2011-04-22 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Link to tests on wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-15-Nightly-20110421.22-i686-Live-desktop.iso ===Fedora-15-Nightly-20110421.22-i686-Live-desktop.iso=== *Install sugar-desktop: : yum install @sugar-desktop sugar-emulator *sugar-emulator and sugar(from

Re: nvidia/nouveau problems

2011-04-22 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Per Bothner wrote: I'm hoping someone can reverse engineer at least how to disable nvidia. Looks like you are in luck. People have started to reverse engineer it and have made some progress towards an easy-to-use tool[1] to switch between cards. [1]

Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-04-22 Thread updates
The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tomcat6-6.0.26-20.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/wireshark-1.4.6-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/couchdb-1.0.2-1.fc14

F-15 Branched report: 20110422 changes

2011-04-22 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Apr 22 13:15:24 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- collectd-mysql-4.10.2-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libmysqlclient.so.16()(64bit) collectd-mysql-4.10.2-2.fc15.x86_64 requires

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 13:35:02 -0500, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: http://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead%2C-long-live-gnome-panel%21 The advice there on using alt right click to adjust panels worked. I haven't set everything back up, but I have one

Re: Multiple F15Beta bugs in under an hour

2011-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 15:40 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: Dne 21.4.2011 15:51, Adam Jackson napsal(a): It's even easier than that. Click on the black title bar in the Display capplet and move it to the monitor you want it to appear on. Unfortunately, it took me twenty minutes before I figured

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 11:57 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: On 04/22/2011 11:37 AM, Angel wrote: A .desktop file needs to be placed in /usr/share/Applications or ~/.local/share/applications/. Great - Aunt Tillie can learn to use Emacs and XML at the same time .. yay ...

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 11:57 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:54:03 +0100 mike cloaked wrote: You could try just learning a bit about it before writing it off forever. I think Gnome3 has the potential to work very well but it is new and it is a learning curve.

Re: Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 13:35 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 13:15, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: I am seeing the same thing you are (on F15), so I don't think it is a rawhide only issue. If you find a solution I'd like to hear about it.

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 19:53 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: It's only people who are coming from an existing desktop This happens to be most users, whether GNOME 2, Windows, or OS X. There is *one* way computers work for most people, and it involves panels in certain locations that work in

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/22/2011 12:15 PM, Dan Scott wrote: On 22 April 2011 00:03, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: snip When you mouse-over Activities in the upper left your get a selection of Windows and Applications. The available Windows are shown over on the right side. It seems, that if you

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/22/2011 10:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 11:57 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: ... Aunt Tilly (or Uncle Tilson) wouldn't be setting up any apps which didn't provide their own menu entries. You can't expect Tilly / Tilson to be writing their own shell scripts, or