F15 - status of /run/user, /dev/shm, and potential for a DoS attack

2011-05-17 Thread JB
Hi, There are threads on this list and a Bugzilla report filed. Can somebody explain what is the current status of it with regard to F15 release declared ready ? The problem affects /run/user/ and /dev/shm. As I understand they are a DoS capable attack venues. There are separate temporary remedi

Re: gnome3 and removable devices...

2011-05-17 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 05/18/2011 07:19 AM, Rob Healey wrote: > Greetings: > > I remember that in the old Gnome 2.x, you could pull in a usb hard drive > and the icon would show on the desktop... > > To safely remove the device, you could right click the icon, and choose > "Safety remove..." > > In the new and awesome

Re: gnome3 and removable devices...

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:19 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: > Greetings: > > I remember that in the old Gnome 2.x, you could pull in a usb hard > drive and the icon would show on the desktop... > > To safely remove the device, you could right click the icon, and > choose "Safety remove..." > > In the n

gnome3 and removable devices...

2011-05-17 Thread Rob Healey
Greetings: I remember that in the old Gnome 2.x, you could pull in a usb hard drive and the icon would show on the desktop... To safely remove the device, you could right click the icon, and choose "Safety remove..." In the new and awesome gnome3, there is a way to have the desktop handle icons

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 01:54 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Where you lack faith and trust and see inevitable failure on QA > community's behalf I see a worthy task to be solved a solution to be > found and even during this release cycle I revived some of that ideas > and discussed them

Re: QA 'vote' at the go/no-go meetings

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 02:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 05/18/2011 01:16 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > to specify the basis on which QA's 'vote' at this meeting is cast. It's > > really entirely deterministic; there's no discretion involved. If there > > are open unaddressed blocker

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
2011/5/17 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > On 05/18/2011 12:21 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> FESCo, and I believe spins sig also believes it should have a say. >> >> QA does indeed provide services to the entire distro, but our >> responsibility is to provide the best QA we can for the things the >> pro

Re: QA 'vote' at the go/no-go meetings

2011-05-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/18/2011 02:03 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> I hope that's acceptable to all! If not, or anyone has ideas for >> improvement, do say so... > As a formerly very active QA guy, and less so now since I got a new > $DAYJOB, I think that this

Re: QA 'vote' at the go/no-go meetings

2011-05-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/18/2011 01:16 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > to specify the basis on which QA's 'vote' at this meeting is cast. It's > really entirely deterministic; there's no discretion involved. If there > are open unaddressed blockers, we do not approve the candidate for > release. If there are no open una

Re: QA 'vote' at the go/no-go meetings

2011-05-17 Thread Jon Stanley
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I hope that's acceptable to all! If not, or anyone has ideas for > improvement, do say so... As a formerly very active QA guy, and less so now since I got a new $DAYJOB, I think that this makes sense, bit I do have minor concerns over wha

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/18/2011 12:21 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > FESCo, and I believe spins sig also believes it should have a say. > > QA does indeed provide services to the entire distro, but our > responsibility is to provide the best QA we can for the things the > project considers a) vital and then b) importa

QA 'vote' at the go/no-go meetings

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, all. So, a concern was raised in passing at today's go/no-go meeting that we don't have a process to elect or otherwise select someone to represent QA at go/no-go meetings; usually myself or jlaska will cast QA's 'vote' at this meeting. I'm not sure it makes sense to set up a procedure just fo

Re: When Fedora goes live on 24th May

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 18:06 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote: > I currently run F15 beta, and have some issues with Gnome. Is there a > better than average chance that the "Released Version" will be > superior to the F15 Beta? > > On one hand, I believe so, as the modules with debugging code shou

When Fedora goes live on 24th May

2011-05-17 Thread Leslie S Satenstein
I currently run F15 beta, and have some issues with Gnome.  Is there a better than average chance that the "Released Version" will be superior to the F15 Beta? On one hand, I believe so, as the modules with debugging code should be replaced by optimized module versions, and any bugs repaired si

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 00:13 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 05/18/2011 12:07 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > I would take it to FESCO. > > Fesco it is. > > I will post the relevant ticket once I've filed it to this threat for > other from QA community ( and any other interested pa

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/18/2011 12:07 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > I would take it to FESCO. Fesco it is. I will post the relevant ticket once I've filed it to this threat for other from QA community ( and any other interested party ) to cc themselves upon choose they to do so. Thanks. JBG -- test mailin

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
2011/5/17 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > On 05/17/2011 11:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:17 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >>> On 05/17/2011 10:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Finally, I have a new proposal for the issue of 'supported' desktops, which is block

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/17/2011 11:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:17 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 05/17/2011 10:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Finally, I have a new proposal for the issue of 'supported' desktops, >>> which is blocking another planned criterion that we've b

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:17 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 05/17/2011 10:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Finally, I have a new proposal for the issue of 'supported' desktops, > > which is blocking another planned criterion that we've been meaning to > > add for a while. I'm now propos

Re: Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/17/2011 10:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Finally, I have a new proposal for the issue of 'supported' desktops, > which is blocking another planned criterion that we've been meaning to > add for a while. I'm now proposing the term 'release-blocking desktops': > it's simple, it does what it s

Re: xrandr dual head configuration: how-to required

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 22:51 +0400, Hiisi wrote: > On 17 May 2011 22:02, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 14:57 +0400, Hiisi wrote: > <--SNIP--> > > This is a tricky setup to get working; using two adapters at once with > > RandR is uncommon and I know when we first went to RandR 1.

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release is declared GOLD!

2011-05-17 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On 05/17/2011 03:45 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/18/2011 03:53 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: >> At the Fedora 15 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 15 Final >> Release was declared GOLD and ready for release on May 24, 2011. >> >> Please note that the Fedora 15 Release Wide Readiness Meeting

F-15 Branched report: 20110517 changes

2011-05-17 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Tue May 17 13:15:46 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- db4o-7.4-2.fc13.x86_64 requires mono(Mono.GetOptions) = 0:2.0.0.0 dh-make-0.55-3.fc15.noarch requires debhelper file-browser-applet-0.6.6-1.fc15

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release is declared GOLD!

2011-05-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/18/2011 03:53 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > At the Fedora 15 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 15 Final > Release was declared GOLD and ready for release on May 24, 2011. > > Please note that the Fedora 15 Release Wide Readiness Meeting will take > place on Thursday at 19:00 UTC (3 PM Ea

Release criteria updates: desktop question

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. Some release criteria stuff! I've created the F16 criteria pages, copied across from F15. I added some criteria we agreed on back in October 2010 to the Final page; somehow we managed not to add these onto the F15 page, but they're in there now. Those are: * The final release notes (i

Re: [Fedora QA] #151: Tests consistent with Criterion

2011-05-17 Thread Fedora QA
#151: Tests consistent with Criterion --+- Reporter: rhe | Owner: rhe Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major| Milestone: Fedora 15 Component: Wik

[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release is declared GOLD!

2011-05-17 Thread Robyn Bergeron
At the Fedora 15 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 15 Final Release was declared GOLD and ready for release on May 24, 2011. Please note that the Fedora 15 Release Wide Readiness Meeting will take place on Thursday at 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern/ 12 PM Pacific) on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-m

Virtual box now runs Gnome 3

2011-05-17 Thread Joshua Andrews
It is very cool if you are running fedora 15 in a VM on virtualbox the newest version with guest additions seems to run the gnome-shell great. Only problem is it seems to 'steal' all input and switching to the host OS is not working. I have my system setup as multi-user and logging off of Gnome

Fedora 13 updates-testing report

2011-05-17 Thread updates
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tor-0.2.1.29-1300.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libmodplug-0.8.7-3.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.21-12.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/upda

Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-05-17 Thread updates
The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/couchdb-1.0.2-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdenetwork-4.6.2-2.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/avahi-0.6.27-6.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/li

Re: Dropped 'Other' category release criterion

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 15:04 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Vitezslav Humpa wrote: > > > > Okay, looks like it's already been there as > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702666 > > and it seems like the issue will be dealt with, although I wonder if in

RE: Yum Problem

2011-05-17 Thread John Dulaney
> Check if you actually have the repo enabled, then. Not enabled. Don't know what's going on here. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

F-15 Multi-Spin DVD verification

2011-05-17 Thread James Laska
Greetings testers, As requested in ticket#164 [1], a multi-spin DVD ISO image will be provided along-side Fedora 15. Ideally, this image would be prepared and tested at each milestone. For Fedora 15, the Multi-Spin DVD image is not part of the release criteria, and completion of the tests is onl

Re: [Fedora QA] #164: Multi-spin DVD review

2011-05-17 Thread Fedora QA
#164: Multi-spin DVD review --+- Reporter: ke4qqq | Owner: jlaska Type: defect | Status: assigned Priority: minor| Milestone: Fedora 14 Component: Test Review | Versio

Re: [Fedora QA] #164: Multi-spin DVD review

2011-05-17 Thread Fedora QA
#164: Multi-spin DVD review --+- Reporter: ke4qqq | Owner: jlaska Type: defect | Status: assigned Priority: minor| Milestone: Fedora 14 Component: Test Review | Versio

Re: xrandr dual head configuration: how-to required

2011-05-17 Thread Hiisi
On 17 May 2011 22:02, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 14:57 +0400, Hiisi wrote: <--SNIP--> > This is a tricky setup to get working; using two adapters at once with > RandR is uncommon and I know when we first went to RandR 1.2 was > unsupported. I don't know if it's theoretically su

Re: F-15 Branched report: 20110515 changes

2011-05-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) said: > Lately, I've been trying to resolve as many of these as reasonably > possible. Here's what I know: Note that the applet issues should be obsoleted by the gnome-panel in updates-testing, slated for 0-day. I have not blocked the packages, because most of t

Re: F15 LiveCD Install Inconsistency?

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 08:25 -0400, James Laska wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 12:19 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > > No trouble, > > but an something inconsistent? > > during liveCD install to hd. > > > > Enter root/admin password (pretend there is a gui here) > > repeat password. > > > > reboot to

Re: xrandr dual head configuration: how-to required

2011-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 14:57 +0400, Hiisi wrote: > Hi, list! > Recently I installed F15-rc1 on my computer. The machine is AMD Phenom > with 2 GB of RAM. It has two graphics adapters - one internal, > integrated into motherboard and the other is PCI-express card. Here's > the link to motherboard man

Re: Too much work for irq18

2011-05-17 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/17/2011 08:12 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Steven Stern > wrote: >> I don't recall seeing this during boot for F14... >> >> >From DEMSG: >> >> [ 42.001543] modem-manager[967]: (ttyS1) closing serial port... >> [ 42.023151] modem-manager[967]: (ttyS1) ser

Re: F-15 Branched report: 20110515 changes

2011-05-17 Thread Tom Callaway
Lately, I've been trying to resolve as many of these as reasonably possible. Here's what I know: On 05/15/2011 07:03 PM, Branched Report wrote: > Compose started at Sun May 15 13:15:23 UTC 2011 > > Broken deps for x86_64 > -- > db4o-7.

Re: [Fedora QA] #193: Update InstallSourceHardDrive test case

2011-05-17 Thread Fedora QA
#193: Update InstallSourceHardDrive test case -+-- Reporter: kparal | Owner: rhe Type: task| Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 15 Component: Wiki| Version:

Re: Housekeeping

2011-05-17 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On 05/16/2011 11:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > This is kind of half a memo-to-self, but of course, the more people who > help out, the merrier :) > > So we have various housekeeping tasks that come under the Bugzappers > umbrella, and may have been neglected lately: > > https://fedoraproject.org/

Re: [Fedora QA] #193: Update InstallSourceHardDrive test case

2011-05-17 Thread Fedora QA
#193: Update InstallSourceHardDrive test case -+-- Reporter: kparal | Owner: rhe Type: task| Status: assigned Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 15 Component: Wiki| Version:

Re: Too much work for irq18

2011-05-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > I don't recall seeing this during boot for F14... > > >From DEMSG: > > [   42.001543] modem-manager[967]:  (ttyS1) closing serial port... > [   42.023151] modem-manager[967]:  (ttyS1) serial port closed > [   42.023301] modem-manager[967]:

Re: Release criteria proposal: logging

2011-05-17 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 14:03 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 16:47 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 13:44 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I know there's a bit of a backlog of proposed criteria changes I really > > > should look at, but wanted to write thi

Re: F15 LiveCD Install Inconsistency?

2011-05-17 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 12:19 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > No trouble, > but an something inconsistent? > during liveCD install to hd. > > Enter root/admin password (pretend there is a gui here) > repeat password. > > reboot to hd > firstboot > add user > password -:- weak, stong, very stong > repe

F15 LiveCD Install Inconsistency?

2011-05-17 Thread Frank Murphy
No trouble, but an something inconsistent? during liveCD install to hd. Enter root/admin password (pretend there is a gui here) repeat password. reboot to hd firstboot add user password -:- weak, stong, very stong repeat .. Why no weakness test for admin password? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UT

xrandr dual head configuration: how-to required

2011-05-17 Thread Hiisi
Hi, list! Recently I installed F15-rc1 on my computer. The machine is AMD Phenom with 2 GB of RAM. It has two graphics adapters - one internal, integrated into motherboard and the other is PCI-express card. Here's the link to motherboard manufacturer specifications: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/74

Re: npviewer crash?

2011-05-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/05/11 11:12, Matej Cepl wrote: > > I won't let this into a flamewar … just to comment, that I don't have > crashing experience with nspluginwrapper either. > > Matěj > "Doctors differ, patients live or die" :D -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- test mailing list

Re: npviewer crash?

2011-05-17 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 17.5.2011 11:31, Frank Murphy napsal(a): > But, I don't have any i386 on my x86_64 boxes. > And use Flashblock, with my 64bit flash. > and my browser doesn't crash. I won't let this into a flamewar … just to comment, that I don't have crashing experience with nspluginwrapper either. Matěj -

Re: Dropped 'Other' category release criterion

2011-05-17 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
> > As discussed between QA and desktop teams on these lists, I've now > > dropped the Final release criterion which stated "There must be no > > ''Other'' menu or category" (referring to the system menus). I also > > adjusted the desktop menus test case - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Tes

Re: npviewer crash?

2011-05-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/05/11 10:28, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 16.5.2011 23:30, Frank Murphy napsal(a): >> rpm -q flash-plugin >> flash-plugin-10.3.162.29-2.x86_64 >> >> and less problems without nspluginwrapper. > > Yes, except I have > > flash-plugin-10.3.181.14-release.i386 > > so you are missing all those (mainly

Re: npviewer crash?

2011-05-17 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 16.5.2011 23:30, Frank Murphy napsal(a): > rpm -q flash-plugin > flash-plugin-10.3.162.29-2.x86_64 > > and less problems without nspluginwrapper. Yes, except I have flash-plugin-10.3.181.14-release.i386 so you are missing all those (mainly security) bugs which have been fixed in meanwhile.

rawhide report: 20110517 changes

2011-05-17 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue May 17 08:15:02 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- acheck-0.5.1-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(Text::Aspell) almanah-0.7.3-10.fc15.x86_64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.23()(64bit) 1:anerley-0.2.14-5.fc15

Re: Dropped 'Other' category release criterion

2011-05-17 Thread Vitezslav Humpa
- Original Message - > As discussed between QA and desktop teams on these lists, I've now > dropped the Final release criterion which stated "There must be no > ''Other'' menu or category" (referring to the system menus). I also > adjusted the desktop menus test case - > https://fedoraproje

[Test-Announce] F-15 Final RC3 Validation Test Recap

2011-05-17 Thread He Rui
Greetings testers, Three Final Release candidates were posted recently, and validation tests were heavily executed from RC1 to RC3 to verify that they meet the final release criteria[1]. The FINAL Go/No-Go Meeting will be held later today based on the status of RC3, whose validation test results