Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-07 Thread JB
Eric Blake eblake at redhat.com writes: ... cp -f ${grub_cfg}.new ${grub_cfg} ; rm -f ${grub_cfg}.new Better? No. cp is not atomic. rename(2) (via mv(1), if both files are on the same device) is. Any solution that does not use rename(2) is flawed, because an ill-timed

Re: FC16 nfs-utils problem

2011-10-07 Thread Ralf Grosse-Kunstleve
Hi Adam, It's nfs-server.service . Thanks a lot. That got me on the right track. I still had a bit of a struggle, for two reasons: The exports appear to work only if the client hostnames are listed in /etc/hosts. Is this a new requirement? Is there an option to make it work with hostnames

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 20:11:51 -0600, MJ (Michal) wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 05:05:06PM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: On 10/06/2011 05:01 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: you would not notice any troubles. Umm, yes you would. That's not atomic, and risks leaving things in an inconsistent

Re: unable to install f16 live to machine

2011-10-07 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Thu, 10/6/11, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Subject: Re: unable to install f16 live to machine To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases test@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 3:42 PM On

rawhide report: 20111007 changes

2011-10-07 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Oct 7 08:15:32 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicuuc.so.46 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicui18n.so.46 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/07/2011 03:38 AM, JB wrote: Eric Blake eblake at redhat.com writes: No. cp is not atomic. rename(2) (via mv(1), if both files are on the same device) is. Any solution that does not use rename(2) is flawed, because an ill-timed power-outage will leave the file in an inconsistent

Fedora-16-Beta-x86_64-Live-Desktop CD not working?

2011-10-07 Thread Jos Vos
Hi, I booted the F16 beta live desktop CD (x86_64) and most (?) things just don't start, like firefox. A terminal works and when I there start firefox from the command line it immediately exits with rc 1. From games for example mines works, but sudoku doesn't. Is there something horribly wrong

Re: Re: Re: Todays f16 updates broken my KDE

2011-10-07 Thread Martin Airs
On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 13:51:11 Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 17:38 +0100, Martin Airs wrote: On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 17:19:12 Martin Airs wrote: On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 11:15:50 Rex Dieter wrote: Probably a variant of: 733462 - glibc-2.14.90-6 causes kdeinit4 to

Unable to install Fedora 16 beta on 32-bit machine with XP dual boot

2011-10-07 Thread Al Dunsmuir
Folks, I have a 32-bit test machine (Dell GX270, 1TB SATA, 2GB RAM) running XP (SP3) where I had successfully installed the Fedora 15 beta last release (500 MB boot, no LVM), and continued to use (in GNOME compatibility mode, the Radeon 7500 PCI video card not being rich enough for the

F16 Beta yum upgrade and initial impressions report

2011-10-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens
I did a yum distro-sync upgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum last night from F15 to F16 beta on my x86_64 desktop with an ASUS P5Q SE2 motherboard. Here are the problems I encountered and my initial impressions. I've been away from this list for a while, so forgive

F16 rescue error.

2011-10-07 Thread Frank Murphy
I have a test F16 install as a virt-machine. Tested a rescue boot from an F16.iso (i386) chroot /mnt/sysimage then service gpm start ignoring request in chroot. systemctl start gpm.service Running in chroot, ignoring request. Have never got this before. Can somebody try reproduce, beore I

Re: Re: Re: Re: Todays f16 updates broken my KDE

2011-10-07 Thread Martin Airs
On Friday 07 Oct 2011 15:46:32 Martin Airs wrote: so if I install the glibc -10 from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737223 will that let me install the latest updates of kdelibs and qt and not segfault glx apps? then all I need to do is wait for nvidia to support the ABI from the

Re: F16 rescue error.

2011-10-07 Thread Joachim Backes
On 10/07/2011 06:21 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: I have a test F16 install as a virt-machine. Tested a rescue boot from an F16.iso (i386) chroot /mnt/sysimage then service gpm start Hi, Frank, testing this [not in a virtual machine, but with a real F16 partition:] rejected by unknown

power saving?

2011-10-07 Thread cornel panceac
i don't understand how this power saving works. my thinkpad suspended while playing music, my desktop suspended while displaying a slideshow. why the power management ignored those two activities? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-07 Thread Janina Sajka
Michael Schwendt writes: The symlink target is read-only as another reminder that one should not edit it with an editor but only via the fragments in /etc/grub.d/ -- Seems clear enough, as is also the unambiguous header in grub.cfg, until one reads the Grub manual which clearly and

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-07 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 12:03:46PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 20:11:51 -0600, MJ (Michal) wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 05:05:06PM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: On 10/06/2011 05:01 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: you would not notice any troubles. Umm, yes you

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-07 Thread Adam Pribyl
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011, David Lehman wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 22:09 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:25:19 + (UTC), J (JB) wrote: I think you criticize him unjustly. Perhaps. I am getting tired of the protests to grub2 and every other thing that changes.

Latest PackageKit-command-not-found bodged or intended behaviour?

2011-10-07 Thread Jurgen Kramer
After updating F16 Beta with the latest updates it seems PackegeKit-command-not-found no longer works? I just get command not found for commands which normally lead to Install package 'xxx' ... Bug ? PackageKit-0.6.19-2 PackageKit-*-0.6.19-2 Jurgen -- test mailing list

F16 kernel update - minor grubby issue

2011-10-07 Thread Jurgen Kramer
While installing the latest F16 kernel (kernel-3.1.0-0.rc9.git0.0.fc16.x86_64)I got this grubby error: grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable template grubby: doing this would leave no kernel entries. Not writing out new config. When I checked my /boot/grub2-efi/grub.cfg I found:

Re: power saving?

2011-10-07 Thread Roy Six
On 10/07/2011 01:10 PM, cornel panceac wrote: i don't understand how this power saving works. my thinkpad suspended while playing music, my desktop suspended while displaying a slideshow. why the power management ignored those two activities? Hi, I think that is supposed to be the way

Re: power saving?

2011-10-07 Thread cornel panceac
2011/10/7 Roy Six roy...@gmail.com On 10/07/2011 01:10 PM, cornel panceac wrote: i don't understand how this power saving works. my thinkpad suspended while playing music, my desktop suspended while displaying a slideshow. why the power management ignored those two activities?

RE: test Digest, Vol 92, Issue 32

2011-10-07 Thread doc
live to machine (Antonio Olivares) 2. rawhide report: 20111007 changes (Rawhide Report) 3. Re: grub2 confusion (Genes MailLists) 4. Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU (Tim Flink) 5. Fedora-16-Beta-x86_64-Live-Desktop CD not working? (Jos Vos) 6. Re: Re: Re: Todays f16 updates broken my

abrtd not working in F16 beta?

2011-10-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens
Sorry if this has been covered already, I just turned my list subscription back on. Gnucash just segfaulted on me. It clearly shows the segfault in /var/log/messages and dmesg, but abrtd didn't do anything. It appears to be running: root 863 0.0 0.0 127068 1600 ?Ss 08:59

boot.fedoraproject.org testing

2011-10-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. Have any of you out there done F16-beta installs via boot.fedoraproject.org? Did things work? fail? I've gotten a report from someone trying it in virtualbox with both the cd and floppy images error out with a: Unknown keyword in configuration file: PXERetry but, I used the usb

Re: Unable to install Fedora 16 beta on 32-bit machine with XP dual boot

2011-10-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Oct 7, 2011 9:58 AM, Al Dunsmuir al.dunsm...@sympatico.ca wrote: Folks, I have a 32-bit test machine (Dell GX270, 1TB SATA, 2GB RAM) running XP (SP3) where I had successfully installed the Fedora 15 beta last release (500 MB boot, no LVM), and continued to use (in GNOME

Re: Unable to install Fedora 16 beta on 32-bit machine with XP dual boot

2011-10-07 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Friday, October 7, 2011, 4:05:11 PM, Stephen wrote: On Oct 7, 2011 9:58 AM, Al Dunsmuir al.dunsm...@sympatico.ca wrote: Folks, I have a 32-bit test machine (Dell GX270, 1TB SATA, 2GB RAM) running XP (SP3) where I had successfully installed the Fedora 15 beta last release (500 MB

Re: Latest PackageKit-command-not-found bodged or intended behaviour?

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:45:01 +0200, JK (Jurgen) wrote: After updating F16 Beta with the latest updates it seems PackegeKit-command-not-found no longer works? I just get command not found for commands which normally lead to Install package 'xxx' ... Bug ? PackageKit-0.6.19-2

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org testing

2011-10-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/10/11 20:36, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. Have any of you out there done F16-beta installs via boot.fedoraproject.org? Did things work? fail? I've gotten a report from someone trying it in virtualbox with both the cd and floppy images error out with a: Unknown keyword in

Re: power saving?

2011-10-07 Thread John Morris
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 22:18 +0300, cornel panceac wrote: thank you , roy. i wonder if there's a way to tell the system to stay awake while different selected user space programs are running (like mplayer, eog, movie player, etc). Mplayer and probably most movie players can suppress the

Re: power saving?

2011-10-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:04:23 -0500 John Morris wrote: Mplayer and probably most movie players can suppress the screen saver. They can suppress the X screensaver, but the X screensaver and power management isn't good enough for gnome, they have to have their own entirely separate system which

F16 Final Blocker Bug Review #2 Minutes

2011-10-07 Thread Tim Flink
#fedora-bugzappers: F16-final-blocker-review Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-10-07/f16-final-blocker-review-2.2011-10-07-17.02.html Minutes (text):

[Solved] Todays f16 updates broken my KDE

2011-10-07 Thread Martin Airs
On Friday 07 Oct 2011 17:23:04 Martin Airs wrote: On Friday 07 Oct 2011 15:46:32 Martin Airs wrote: so if I install the glibc -10 from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737223 will that let me install the latest updates of kdelibs and qt and not segfault glx apps? then all I

Re: power saving?

2011-10-07 Thread Kevin DeKorte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/07/2011 03:19 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:04:23 -0500 John Morris wrote: Mplayer and probably most movie players can suppress the screen saver. They can suppress the X screensaver, but the X screensaver and power

oops on machine I can't install Fedora since F13

2011-10-07 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear folks, I paid a little bit more attention to the booting and chose to remove rhgb and quiet options from livecd booting. I managed to see a quick oops, probably related to the bug that I reported at one time. I will post a glimpse of it: [ 35.270610] snd_hda_intel :80:01.0: PCI