Re: [Fedora QA] #271: L10N and i18n Test Day

2012-04-17 Thread Fedora QA
#271: L10N and i18n Test Day ---+--- Reporter: aalam | Owner: jdulaney Type: task | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 17 Component: Test Day |Version: Resolution: fixed | Keywords: Blocked

No way to add a new app launcher from Gnome 3.x GUI?

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
Perhaps it's time for bed for me, but apparently there is no way to manually add a new app launcher from the Gnome 3 gui? is that possible? This page here (describing Ubuntu and Gnome3) http://bloggezmoy.com/2011/05/17/how-to-add-an-application-to-the-gnome-3-application-launcher/ details the manu

Re: 'alacarte' crashes, and no apparent way to set Start-up apps, but yes, there is, and hidden (Gnome-session-properties)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 00:09, Fernando Cassia wrote: > So, Why-oh-why doesn't 'startup applications' appear in the list of apps > under "system tools" or in the "System settings" folder view, specifically > under "System" ? > Isn't a list of apps that run at startup a "system setting"?. And why

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
John Morris wrote: It doesn't. And nobody cares, go buy hardware that works the way Pottering imagines it 'should' work is the closest you will get to real world advice. It doesn't actually exist mind you, so you can't really buy it. You will just have to imagine how wonderful it would be. It

'alacarte' crashes, and no apparent way to set Start-up apps, but yes, there is, and hidden (Gnome-session-properties)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
# yum install alacarte Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Dropbox | 951 B 00:00 fedora/metalink | 36 kB 00:00 google-chrome | 951 B 00:00 google-chrome/primary

Re: F17 Beta DVD install options

2012-04-17 Thread John Wendel
On 04/17/2012 01:43 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:38:17 -0700 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Why is it that yum update pulls in some 500 MB of updates immediately after installing a brand new DVD? Why does the install image have to be riddled with stale files? This is du

Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > Unlike the Alpha DVD iso, I was able to install f17 > Beta using the hard disk install technique, so at > least one thing is definitely improved since the > Alpha (but why is it *always* broken in Alphas? :-). The clue is in the name ;) -- A

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 16:39 -0500, John Morris wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 21:09 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I don't think anyone would contest that /etc/fstab is a very old UNIX > > way of doing things. =) > > Oh yes, but why do I have the notion we aren't supposed to be using > fstab

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 16:13 -0500, John Morris wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:36 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > > > - how is this supposed to work with "one slider rule them all" > > type of control? > > It doesn't. And nobody cares, go buy hardware that works the way > Pottering imagines it 's

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-17 Thread Michael Hennebry
I've booted F16. On Tue, 17 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 . As we understand it at present, you can't 'chainload' grub2 that way. The correct way to 'chainload' grub2 is to load core.img as a 'kernel', as described in https://bugzilla.r

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl
On 17.4.2012 23:55, Fernando Cassia wrote: So you mean it'd be technically possible to have a running Scribes in current Fedora? Sure, what happens when you try to rebuilt http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/scribes-0.4-0.bzr20120417r1052.3.el7.src.rpm ? Install all packages from https://fed

Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso works!

2012-04-17 Thread Tom Horsley
Unlike the Alpha DVD iso, I was able to install f17 Beta using the hard disk install technique, so at least one thing is definitely improved since the Alpha (but why is it *always* broken in Alphas? :-). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 18:52, Matej Cepl wrote: > a) it is not that bad on Fedora (which I don't have now), where all Gnome2 > packages are still maintained, > So you mean it'd be technically possible to have a running Scribes in current Fedora? FC -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl
On 17.4.2012 20:53, Fernando Cassia wrote: It seems like the author needs to do a major rewrite. :-( too bad because I really liked scribes. a) it is not that bad on Fedora (which I don't have now), where all Gnome2 packages are still maintained, b) I am in the email conversation with the upst

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 18:47, John Morris wrote: > Well once upon a time I'd have agreed. But these days when you see > something totally insane you can't just assume it is a bug. Because > half the time when you do just report it as one it gets instantly closed > as not a bug. So people have

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread John Morris
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 23:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Well, I must say that your original post read, to me, more like a rant than > seeking > opinions/assistance. So much so that I dismissed it. FWIW, when folks say > things > such as"Who in his right mind thought these only two options w

Re: Fedora 17 beta released, do I need to update from beta rc3?

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 17:17, Adam Williamson wrote: > you're a long > way ahead of Beta already, because Beta is built from the frozen > 'stable' package set not including updates-testing packages. > -- > Good to know. Thanks Adam! FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth be

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread John Morris
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 21:09 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > I don't think anyone would contest that /etc/fstab is a very old UNIX > way of doing things. =) Oh yes, but why do I have the notion we aren't supposed to be using fstab for removable media anymore? Google doesn't turn up anything posit

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread John Morris
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:36 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > - how is this supposed to work with "one slider rule them all" > type of control? It doesn't. And nobody cares, go buy hardware that works the way Pottering imagines it 'should' work is the closest you will get to real world advice. It do

Re: Fedora 17 beta released, do I need to update from beta rc3?

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 16:33 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 16:31, Fernando Cassia > wrote: > > Do I need to do anything special to get my system in parity > with today' s beta release? > > Other than yum update I mean... No. Actually if you

Re: possible bug for console

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 13:00 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote: > Hi, > > I've just upgraded from F16 minimal to F17 via preupgrade. Everything > seems fine so far except for 1 minor bug. The 1st terminal screen > (ALT+F1) doesn't provide a login as the rest of the alt consoles > (ALT+F2, etc). Is anyone

Re: F17 Beta DVD install options

2012-04-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:38:17 -0700 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > Why is it that yum update pulls in some 500 MB of updates > immediately after installing a brand new DVD? Why does > the install image have to be riddled with stale files? This is due to the freeze. Things are frozen while

Re: F17 Beta DVD install options

2012-04-17 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
Why is it that yum update pulls in some 500 MB of updates immediately after installing a brand new DVD? Why does the install image have to be riddled with stale files? -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 17:26, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Look in System Settings->Removable Media. There are a bunch of settings > there that might help you. Yes, but that removes the feature system-wide. Instead, what I propose is a way to continue having those notifications, but be able to run Sh

Re: grubby vs. grub2-mkconfig

2012-04-17 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:49:46 +0200 (CEST) Adam Pribyl wrote: >> >> The only reason I know is, that "people tend to modify grub.cfg manually", >> but with grub2 this is plain wrong anyway. Why do we support this messy >> setup then? > > Because

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
Fernando Cassia wrote: That´s why I think other options should be offered, like ¨open folder¨ or ¨do nothing¨. Look in System Settings->Removable Media. There are a bunch of settings there that might help you. In F16, I tried to set the photo option to just open with files, but it didn't see

Re: F17 Beta DVD install options

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 09:50 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone tried the recent beta released on DVD? Yes. > Does it give > various install options like F16? Yes. > The alpha F17 only installed bare > minimal. Um, no it didn't. It had a full set of install options and defaulted

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:54 -0500, John Morris wrote: > If something like this is going to work for everyone there should be a > way to pick on a per device or port basis how the device should be > handled. There is, and has been for decades. It's called /etc/fstab . Really, seriously: whether we

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:54 -0500, John Morris wrote: > If something like this is going to work for everyone there should be a > way to pick on a per device or port basis how the device should be > handled. There is, and has been for decades. It's called /etc/fstab . Really, seriously: whether we

possible bug for console

2012-04-17 Thread Tommy Pham
Hi, I've just upgraded from F16 minimal to F17 via preupgrade. Everything seems fine so far except for 1 minor bug. The 1st terminal screen (ALT+F1) doesn't provide a login as the rest of the alt consoles (ALT+F2, etc). Is anyone else experiencing this? Should I file a bug? [root@ogx620 ~]# u

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread John Morris
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 18:28 -0400, Al Dunsmuir wrote: > O > > This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the > > external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as > > "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in. > > Phooey. That ain't all th

Re: Fedora 17 beta released, do I need to update from beta rc3?

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 16:31, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > Do I need to do anything special to get my system in parity with today' s > beta release? > Other than yum update I mean... FC -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Fedora 17 beta released, do I need to update from beta rc3?

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
I' ve read on the news wires that F17 beta is out. I have installed F17 Beta RC3 on this system. Do I need to do anything special to get my system in parity with today' s beta release? FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engañ

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 18 Beta!

2012-04-17 Thread Andre Robatino
Michał Piotrowski wrote: > It would be nice to get netinst torrent - it's not easy to find this image. More generally, would it make sense to have just one torrent for each checksum file, with all ISOs corresponding to that file? People could use their BitTorrent client to choose which ISO(s) to

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 14:42, Matej Cepl wrote: > and I cannot fix it (python 2.6 v. 2.7 combined with gnome 2 v. gnome 3) It seems like the author needs to do a major rewrite. :-( too bad because I really liked scribes. I wonder if pehaps there's some automated source code migration tool tha

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > > If ALSA and pulseaudio worked better together, i.e., they were, between the > two of them, smart enough to automatically DTRT with the low-level sound > settings, then there would be no need for anyone but the real audiophiles to > access

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Richard Shaw
Review request submitted! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813420 Richard -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl
On 16.4.2012 16:19, Matej Cepl wrote: Sorry, I was busy with some other work so I am now only ploughing through fedora.testers ... scribes.src.rpm is completely unmaintained, I have in a burst of optimism fixed it work with RHEL-6, but I don't use it on day-to-day basis anymore. If anybody wants

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > On 04/17/2012 06:13 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Brendan Jones >>  wrote: >>> >>> Qastools is coming to Fedora soon which is Qt based [1]. It is also being >>> used in the Qt Razor desktop which I hope wil

F17 Beta DVD install options

2012-04-17 Thread Tommy Pham
Hi, Has anyone tried the recent beta released on DVD? Does it give various install options like F16? The alpha F17 only installed bare minimal. TIA, Tommy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Brendan Jones
On 04/17/2012 06:13 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: Qastools is coming to Fedora soon which is Qt based [1]. It is also being used in the Qt Razor desktop which I hope will make it to Fedora someday [1] http://xwmw.org/qastools/ Try this: http:

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 04/17/2012 10:12 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: I just dug in. You can use the "disks" utility in gnome3 to mark your partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you want to mount them, properties etc. Would love to give that a try. Unfortunately, it coredumps for me on startup.

Re: F17: wpa_supplicant-1.0-0.3.fc17 failure: EAP-PEAP + MSCHAPv2 fails

2012-04-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Pedro Francisco wrote: > Hello! > Just an heads-up, I can't connect to my university's WiFi network > using F17 with an up-to-date system. > > WiFi network is eduroam with WPA2, PTK=GTK=CCMP plus phase 2 MSCHAPv2. > > eduroam-wpa_supplicant-1.0-0.3.fc17.i686 doesn'

Re: grubby vs. grub2-mkconfig

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:03 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:49:46 +0200 (CEST) > Adam Pribyl wrote: > > > The only reason I know is, that "people tend to modify grub.cfg manually", > > but with grub2 this is plain wrong anyway. Why do we support this messy > > setup then? > >

Re: new Release Criterion proposal: kernel+initrd boot

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 08:42 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:08:04PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 10:11 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > > > [1] "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary > > > > architectures, with all syst

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Pete Travis
On Apr 17, 2012 9:41 AM, "Adam Williamson" @ redhat.com > wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 19:42 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > I just dug in. You can use the "disks" utility in gnome3 to mark your > > partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you > > want to mount them, pro

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > Qastools is coming to Fedora soon which is Qt based [1]. It is also being > used in the Qt Razor desktop which I hope will make it to Fedora someday > > [1] http://xwmw.org/qastools/ Try this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34775202/qastools/qasto

Re: grubby vs. grub2-mkconfig

2012-04-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:49:46 +0200 (CEST) Adam Pribyl wrote: > The only reason I know is, that "people tend to modify grub.cfg manually", > but with grub2 this is plain wrong anyway. Why do we support this messy > setup then? Because the reverse is true - requiring a tool to modify grub.cfg is

Re: /usr/bin/sync hangs up if called in

2012-04-17 Thread Pedro Francisco
On 04/15/2012 10:18 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Calling /usr/bin/sync manually will hang up. System continues > to operate and reboots normally. As mentioned on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=812588 ( "command /usr/bin/sync hangs up" ), this gets fixed with selinux-policy-3.10.0-116.

Re: firewalld configuration

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/17/2012 11:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:51 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: >> On 17 April 2012 12:20, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Frankly, when I found VNC being blocked was inhibiting my beta >>> validation testing, I couldn't make head nor tail of the firewalld >>>

F17: wpa_supplicant-1.0-0.3.fc17 failure: EAP-PEAP + MSCHAPv2 fails

2012-04-17 Thread Pedro Francisco
Hello! Just an heads-up, I can't connect to my university's WiFi network using F17 with an up-to-date system. WiFi network is eduroam with WPA2, PTK=GTK=CCMP plus phase 2 MSCHAPv2. eduroam-wpa_supplicant-1.0-0.3.fc17.i686 doesn't work. eduroam-wpa_supplicant-1.0-0.2.fc17.i686 works. $ git diff

grubby vs. grub2-mkconfig

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Pribyl
There are at least two bugs that sum the confusion and remains in F17: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=755272 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=768106 In short: kernel install adds option to grub.cfg using grubby, while grub2-mkconfig generates a different menuentries. W

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/17/2012 11:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 22:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 04/17/2012 09:32 PM, Bahtiar Gadimov wrote: >>> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a bugzillaunless

Re: new Release Criterion proposal: kernel+initrd boot

2012-04-17 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:08:04PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 10:11 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > [1] "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary > > > architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on > > > those architectures, fr

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 22:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/17/2012 09:32 PM, Bahtiar Gadimov wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a > >> bugzillaunless it has > >> already been reported. > > Shouldn't y

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 19:42 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > I just dug in. You can use the "disks" utility in gnome3 to mark your > partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you > want to mount them, properties etc. > > I think this should be somewhere in the release notes too

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > Qastools is coming to Fedora soon which is Qt based [1]. It is also being > used in the Qt Razor desktop which I hope will make it to Fedora someday > > [1] http://xwmw.org/qastools/ Trying it out now. If I like it I'll submit a Review Requ

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:36 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > now if there is only one volume control, how do I express that I > want to mute the microphone and set the line-in to some value? PA doesn't treat this as a question of volumes but a question of inputs, or, as GNOME volume control puts it,

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
You could try xfce4-mixer. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: firewalld configuration

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:51 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 17 April 2012 12:20, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Frankly, when I found VNC being blocked was inhibiting my beta > > validation testing, I couldn't make head nor tail of the firewalld > > command line stuff so I just turned it off and wen

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Brendan Jones
On 04/17/2012 04:54 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: I've been following this thread with interest so I did some searching and found alsamixergui which is UGLY. I also found gnome-alsamixer for Debian/Ubuntu. The upstream seems to be dead but Debian is keeping it going, probably from lack of an alternativ

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Richard Shaw
I've been following this thread with interest so I did some searching and found alsamixergui which is UGLY. I also found gnome-alsamixer for Debian/Ubuntu. The upstream seems to be dead but Debian is keeping it going, probably from lack of an alternative. Between the SRPM from ATRPMs (Why is this

Re: [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 17 Beta!

2012-04-17 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lets try again. its really Fedora 17 Beta, we have not yet entered a time vortex and skipped ahead, But now is a great time to work on or see what will be coming next in Fedora 18 :) El Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:17:02 -0500 Dennis Gilmore escribió: > ---

Re: [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 18 Beta!

2012-04-17 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, It would be nice to get netinst torrent - it's not easy to find this image. BTW. Fedora 18? :) 2012/4/17 Dennis Gilmore : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Look, up in the sky! It's a bird, it's a plane, it's... the Beta > release of Beefy Miracle! Flying 'round the world

xorg-x11-drv-syanptic update makes touch pad vertical scrolling go bonkers.

2012-04-17 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, The xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.5.99.903-1.fc17.x86_64 update in updates-testing breaks scrolling: I scroll in evolution, and then change windows. The new window continues to scroll for quite a while. This is reproducible. Downgrading the package fixes it. This is more troublesome when gnom

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 18 Beta!

2012-04-17 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look, up in the sky! It's a bird, it's a plane, it's... the Beta release of Beefy Miracle! Flying 'round the world at the speed of the intertubes, delivering progress, mustard, and freedom to the masses. We are delighted to announce the availability

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/17/2012 09:32 PM, Bahtiar Gadimov wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a >> bugzillaunless it has >> already been reported. > Shouldn't you report that directly to gnome? > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/br

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 18 Beta!

2012-04-17 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look, up in the sky! It's a bird, it's a plane, it's... the Beta release of Beefy Miracle! Flying 'round the world at the speed of the intertubes, delivering progress, mustard, and freedom to the masses. We are delighted to announce the availability

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Ankur Sinha
> > Or perhaps the system could keep track of mounted devices and when the > computer enters the same state as it was in when the device was > previously mounted, mount it again automatically. > > In other words, "If device is mounted for $USER, and $USER logs > out or the system reboots while

rawhide report: 20120417 changes

2012-04-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Apr 17 08:15:04 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [389-ds-base] 389-ds-base-1.2.11-0.1.a1.fc18.x86_64 requires libdb-5.2.so()(64bit) [aeolus-conductor] aeolus-conductor-0.4.0-2.fc17.noarch requires ruby

memtest86+ in Fedora 17

2012-04-17 Thread Zdenek Pytela
memtest86+ package was shipped without proper installation script adjusted for grub2 until memtest86+-4.20-2. Now there is proper memtest-setup, but it is not run by default as postinstall script. People used to do their own setting at 23_memtest according to numerous web guides. Paths changed in g

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Bahtiar Gadimov
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, what component is responsible? I think it could use a > bugzillaunless it has > already been reported. Shouldn't you report that directly to gnome? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Út 17. dubna 2012 07:25:49, Matthias Clasen napsal(a): > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:04 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > None of them would. PulseAudio is at a higher level than ALSA > > and does not actually provide any kind of interface > > (user-interfacing, or API) for controlling individual

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 4/17/2012 7:25 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: Well put Adam, thanks. That being said, we certainly want to provide enough control to let people use their sound cards. If something is missing, by all means, let us know. But "I need control on the level of " is not a very concrete description of wha

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/17/2012 07:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Did the medium you tested with have a DCIM directory? If you create one, > do you start seeing what Fernando sees? That does seem to have been the key. Previously my medium didn't have a DCIM directory. After adding it, my choices are to either

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/17/2012 07:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Did the medium you tested with have a DCIM directory? If you create one, > do you start seeing what Fernando sees? That does seem to have been the key. Previously my medium didn't have a DCIM directory. After adding it, my choices are to either

Re: firewalld configuration

2012-04-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On 17 April 2012 12:20, Adam Williamson wrote: > Frankly, when I found VNC being blocked was inhibiting my beta > validation testing, I couldn't make head nor tail of the firewalld > command line stuff so I just turned it off and went back to the static > firewall. Progress! Same here. I'm now ju

F-17 Branched report: 20120417 changes

2012-04-17 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Apr 17 08:15:05 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [aeolus-conductor] aeolus-conductor-0.4.0-2.fc17.noarch requires ruby(abi) = 0:1.8 [aeolus-configserver] aeolus-configserver-0.4.5-1.fc17.noarch require

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 08:10, Adam Williamson wrote: > I think it only pops up on media that GNOME considers to be 'photo > media'. > > Thanks Adam, That seems to nail it. I use a USB ´pen drive´ that also acts as a sd card reader. And yes, it does have a DCIM folder. Yet I plugged it in to c

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:04 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > None of them would. PulseAudio is at a higher level than ALSA and does > not actually provide any kind of interface (user-interfacing, or API) > for controlling individual ALSA mixer channels as Jon wants to. It's not > what PA is _for

Re: firewalld configuration

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 15:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > The current F17 Live beta installs and activates firewalld by default. > However, it > doesn't appear to have the firewall-config command. Apparently, it hasn't been written yet. Yoiks. I don't recall if this was brought up during the FESCo

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/17/2012 12:14 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 00:54, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> So, I don't see what you are seeing. What else have you installed? > > Maybe shotwell is not installed by default on the livecd? I made a

Re: old TCs/RCs downloads - do you need them?

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 10:16 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > We now have download-ib01 as our mirror of that content, which has lots > of space, so that constraint is mostly gone. Also, alt is gone and now > we just have this content on our regular download boxes. BW has > increased a great deal since

Re: [Test-Announce] 2012-04-16 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 08:40 -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > # Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting > # Date: 2012-04-16 > # Time: 15:00 UTC > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) > # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net > > Greetings testers! > > Apologies for the late notice b

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 11:27 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:23, Matej Cepl wrote: > Please, if you are not willing to file bugs, what you are > doing here? > > Matěj > > Who said I wasn' t?. Just posted it here to try see if others

Re: new Release Criterion proposal: kernel+initrd boot

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 10:11 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > [1] "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary > > architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on > > those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso > > install media" > > If there a

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 19:48 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > > On 04/15/2012 04:27 PM, stan wrote: > > >A thought on this. I'm not that familiar with pulseaudio, but some of > > >these settings *are* available in the pavucontrol a

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 12:51 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote: > > > On 04/14/2012 04:29 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > >> The next time, I made /boot sda2 and picked sda for the bootloader. > >> This time I got an install, but I'm not sure how to boot to it. >

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 09:42 -0600, Pete wrote: > On 04/13/2012 07:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Ankur Sinha (sanjay.an...@gmail.com) said: > >> On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query > >>

Re: Yum upgrade F16 -> F17

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 23:35 +0300, Tomi Leppikangas wrote: > Hi, > > I did test upgrade with yum following info on > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum > > After doing succesfull usrmove i did upgrade with: > yum --releasever=17 update rpm > rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__* > rpm --r

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the > external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as > "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in. > Phooey. Just put an entry in /etc/f

Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > FWIW, as KDE user I'm "happy" to note that this seems to be a GNOME thing. > :-) The KDE automount framework hasn't been ported to udisks2 yet. It's still using udisks. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: Ad

Re: Inadequate sound device control

2012-04-17 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Ne 15. dubna 2012 12:26:21, stan napsal(a): > On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:27:26 -0400 > > Jonathan Kamens wrote: > > These are not esoteric settings that only audiophiles use. I > > have to tweak them/regularly/ to get my speakers, headset, > > and microphone to play nicely together, due to another

Re: [Fedora QA] #276: Gnome Boxes Test Day

2012-04-17 Thread Fedora QA
#276: Gnome Boxes Test Day ---+--- Reporter: vbenes| Owner: kparal Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 17 Component: Test Day |Version: Resolution:| Keywords: Blocked By:

Re: firewalld configuration

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/17/2012 04:03 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 17/04/12 08:48, Ed Greshko wrote: >> The current F17 Live beta installs and activates firewalld by default. >> However, it >> doesn't appear to have the firewall-config command. >> >> What is one supposed to use to configure firewalld? The command

Re: firewalld configuration

2012-04-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/04/12 08:48, Ed Greshko wrote: The current F17 Live beta installs and activates firewalld by default. However, it doesn't appear to have the firewall-config command. What is one supposed to use to configure firewalld? The command line? Probably? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features

firewalld configuration

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Greshko
The current F17 Live beta installs and activates firewalld by default. However, it doesn't appear to have the firewall-config command. What is one supposed to use to configure firewalld? The command line? -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the jok

Re: OpenVPN/F17/NetworkManager

2012-04-17 Thread Joachim Backes
On 04/17/2012 08:29 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/17/2012 02:12 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> it seems that NetworkManager in F17 is not able to configure an OpenVPN >> connection: Clicking on the NM icon of my gnome-shell desktop does not >> offer to configure OpenVPN. >> >> Installed