Re: Root priviledges needed to poweroff

2012-07-27 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Čt 26. července 2012 21:36:20, Adam Pribyl napsal(a): On Thu, 26 Jul 2012, ergodic wrote: Karel your philosophy is correct. I have seen this issue when my grandchildren complained that they could not turn of their box after it was was upgraded to F-17. That is why I filed Bug

Re: Root priviledges needed to poweroff

2012-07-27 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Karel Volný kvo...@redhat.com wrote: but the warning should not prevent _any_ eligible user from powering off/rebooting, it should just provide a possibility to reconsider +1 FC -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Rawhide file-conflict gnupg gnupg2

2012-07-27 Thread Frank Murphy
Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/man/man1/gpg-zip.1.gz from install of gnupg2-2.0.19-3.fc18.i686 conflicts with file from package gnupg-1.4.12-2.fc18.i686 -- Regards, Frank Jack of all, fubars -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2012-07-27 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10934/dropbear-0.55-1.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10314/revelation-0.4.14-1.fc16

Fedora 17 updates-testing report

2012-07-27 Thread updates
The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-11182/xen-4.1.2-24.fc17 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10269/revelation-0.4.14-1.fc17

Re: Root priviledges needed to poweroff

2012-07-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:09:03 +0200, Karel Volný kvo...@redhat.com wrote: if the user is local then DO NOT ask for admin privileges (else the user will just cut the power supply which is worse than killing others' running processes) I'd prefer to keep that option. A local user would be

Re: Rawhide file-conflict gnupg gnupg2

2012-07-27 Thread Kevin Martin
On 07/27/2012 04:37 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/man/man1/gpg-zip.1.gz from install of gnupg2-2.0.19-3.fc18.i686 conflicts with file from package gnupg-1.4.12-2.fc18.i686 Do you need both gnupg and gnupg2 on the same system at the same time? What

[criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Schindler
Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to delete this alpha criterion: 'The rescue mode of the installer must start successfully and be able to detect and mount an existing default installation' Reason (according to Chris): There's been no

[criteria update] Serial console

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Schindler
Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to delete this beta [2] criterion: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using the serial console interface' Reason (according to Chris): (This criterion) will need to be removed for

[criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Schindler
Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to remove this beta criterion [2]: 'The rescue mode of the installer must be able to detect and mount (read-write and read-only) LVM, encrypted, and RAID (BIOS, hardware, and software) installations'

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Petr Schindler pschi...@redhat.com said: Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to remove this beta criterion [2]: 'The rescue mode of the installer must be able to detect and mount (read-write and read-only) LVM,

[criteria update] Anaconda and network-attached storage devices

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Schindler
Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to remove this final criterion [2]: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using any network-attached storage devices (e.g. iSCSI, FCoE, Fibre Channel)' Reason (according to Chris):

Re: [criteria update] Anaconda and network-attached storage devices

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Petr Schindler pschi...@redhat.com said: Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to remove this final criterion [2]: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using any network-attached storage devices

[criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Schindler
Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to change this final criterion [2]: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using all supported interfaces ' to 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using all

[criteria update] Interfaces

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Schindler
Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to change this final criterion [2]: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using all supported interfaces ' to 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using all

Re: [criteria update] Anaconda and network-attached storage devices

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Schindler
It is a big problem. Lot of things will be broken (won't be in new anaconda for F18, but should be again in next releases, hopefully). For example, we use serial console a lot and for f18 it won't work. I'm here only proposing changes because of the state of anaconda and I hope that the discussion

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Petr Schindler
On Pá, 2012-07-27 at 08:53 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Petr Schindler pschi...@redhat.com said: Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to remove this beta criterion [2]: 'The rescue mode of the installer must be able

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Joe Wulf
Question:  Is there a 'deferred' state these kinds of issues can be moved to? That might be an acceptable middle-ground so that issues are maintained, yet rational is provided for why they are not worked in this release. Just a thought. -Joe From: Petr

Anaconda and network-attached storage devices

2012-07-27 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, Petr Schindler wrote: It is a big problem. Lot of things will be broken (won't be in new anaconda for F18, but should be again in next releases, hopefully). ... ... and I hope that the discussion within this threads will lead to some action - for me it would be better to

Re: Rawhide file-conflict gnupg gnupg2

2012-07-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On 27/07/12 14:22, Kevin Martin wrote: On 07/27/2012 04:37 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/man/man1/gpg-zip.1.gz from install of gnupg2-2.0.19-3.fc18.i686 conflicts with file from package gnupg-1.4.12-2.fc18.i686 Do you need both gnupg and gnupg2 on the

Re: Root priviledges needed to poweroff

2012-07-27 Thread ergodic
It is clear that different scenarios require different rules. I have installed Fedora for three different friends. All at different physical locations from my place. These people have no computer knowledge, so giving them elevated permissions spells disaster. However they must to be able to

Re: Rawhide file-conflict gnupg gnupg2

2012-07-27 Thread Tom London
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/07/12 14:22, Kevin Martin wrote: On 07/27/2012 04:37 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/man/man1/gpg-zip.1.**gz from install of gnupg2-2.0.19-3.fc18.i686 conflicts with file from

Re: Rawhide file-conflict gnupg gnupg2

2012-07-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On 27/07/12 17:34, Tom London wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com Same error on koji kernel-build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4336751 http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/6751/4336751/root.log -- Regards, Frank Jack of

Re: Rawhide file-conflict gnupg gnupg2

2012-07-27 Thread Kevin Martin
On 07/27/2012 10:17 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/12 14:22, Kevin Martin wrote: On 07/27/2012 04:37 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/man/man1/gpg-zip.1.gz from install of gnupg2-2.0.19-3.fc18.i686 conflicts with file from package

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/27/2012 02:14 PM, Petr Schindler wrote: It is about discussion to accept this change. If there will be lot of opinions against this change, we will let it be as it is and anaconda will have to make their best to bring rescue mod. We can also change this criterion. It's on discussion. Note

Re: [criteria update] Serial console

2012-07-27 Thread Scott Poore
- Original Message - Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to delete this beta [2] criterion: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using the serial console interface' Reason (according to Chris): (This

Re: [criteria update] Serial console

2012-07-27 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On 07/27/2012 11:11 AM, Scott Poore wrote: - Original Message - Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to delete this beta [2] criterion: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using the serial console interface'

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/27/2012 02:24 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Generic rescue images would still work for most problems but I'd tend to agree: a final release with a non-working rescue mode is pretty uncool and seems like a bad precedent. In any case if the plan is to extend installer initrd with the rescue

Re: [criteria update] Serial console

2012-07-27 Thread Scott Poore
- Original Message - From: Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:15:27 PM Subject: Re: [criteria update] Serial console I think most of these questions got answered at the FESCo meeting where the feature was approved.

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 18:02 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/27/2012 02:14 PM, Petr Schindler wrote: It is about discussion to accept this change. If there will be lot of opinions against this change, we will let it be as it is and anaconda will have to make their best to bring

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 07:19 -0700, Joe Wulf wrote: Question: Is there a 'deferred' state these kinds of issues can be moved to? That might be an acceptable middle-ground so that issues are maintained, yet rational is provided for why they are not worked in this release. Just a thought.

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 15:59 +0200, Petr Schindler wrote: Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to change this final criterion [2]: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using all supported interfaces ' to 'The

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 15:38 +0200, Petr Schindler wrote: Because of changes in new anaconda [1] and after short discussion with Chris Lumens, I propose to delete this alpha criterion: 'The rescue mode of the installer must start successfully and be able to detect and mount an existing

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 14:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 18:02 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/27/2012 02:14 PM, Petr Schindler wrote: It is about discussion to accept this change. If there will be lot of opinions against this change, we will let it be as

Re: [criteria update] Serial console

2012-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 16:26 -0400, Scott Poore wrote: - Original Message - From: Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:15:27 PM Subject: Re: [criteria update] Serial console I think most of these questions got

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/27/2012 09:27 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 18:02 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/27/2012 02:14 PM, Petr Schindler wrote: It is about discussion to accept this change. If there will be lot of opinions against this change, we will let it be as it is and

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 21:51 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/27/2012 09:27 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 18:02 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/27/2012 02:14 PM, Petr Schindler wrote: It is about discussion to accept this change. If there will be lot of

Re: [criteria update] Rescue mode

2012-07-27 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/27/2012 09:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, to a certain extent it's academic. I suspect that if QA was strongly of the opinion that the feature isn't sufficiently complete, FESCo would give substantial weight to that input in making its determination. But it's FESCo that owns the

Re: Rawhide file-conflict gnupg gnupg2

2012-07-27 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Friday, July 27, 2012, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/man/man1/gpg-zip.1.gz from install of gnupg2-2.0.19-3.fc18.i686 conflicts with file from package gnupg-1.4.12-2.fc18.i686 Please file a bug against both these packages. File conflicts

Re: Rawhide file-conflict gnupg gnupg2

2012-07-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 15:42:03 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, July 27, 2012, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/man/man1/gpg-zip.1.gz from install of gnupg2-2.0.19-3.fc18.i686 conflicts with file from

Re: [criteria update] Serial console

2012-07-27 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Scott Poore spo...@redhat.com wrote: No text mode installs at all? That seems like a pretty critical function to me. exactly, many ARM releases depend on interactive install using a rs232 connection as terminal. FC -- test mailing list

Re: [criteria update] Serial console

2012-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 20:26 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Scott Poore spo...@redhat.com wrote: No text mode installs at all? That seems like a pretty critical function to me. exactly, many ARM releases depend on interactive install using a rs232

Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2012-07-27 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-11207/nsd-3.2.13-1.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10934/dropbear-0.55-1.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-11190/xen-4.1.2-9.fc16