Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2012-09-18 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing: Age URL 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-14363/phpldapadmin-1.2.2-3.gitbbedf1.fc16 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-14295/moodle-2.1.8-1.fc16 10 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 22:38 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > drago01 (drag...@gmail.com) said: > > > > There is no default 'package set' now (by design, it's not a bug). > > > > > > This *is* a bug IMO. We should have reasonable defaults and allow t

[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 QA Retrospective page is up

2012-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
The Retrospective page for Fedora 18 QA is now up: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_QA_Retrospective We use the retrospective page to track things that went well and things that didn't go so well during the Fedora 18 validation process, and for tracking ideas we have but don't have time t

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 04:25 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > 'The installer must be able to install each of the release blocking > > > desktops, as well as the minimal package set, for each supported > > > installation method (DVD, live, netinst, PXE, ...)' > > > > > > Comments please. > > > > I'm

Re: [Fedora QA] #305: Abrt test day request for 2012-09-27

2012-09-18 Thread Fedora QA
#305: Abrt test day request for 2012-09-27 ---+- Reporter: dkutalek | Owner: Type: defect| Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: Test Day |Version: Resolution:| Keywords: Blocked By:|

Re: [Fedora QA] #303: Proposed Test Day - Virtualization

2012-09-18 Thread Fedora QA
#303: Proposed Test Day - Virtualization ---+--- Reporter: crobinso | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 18 Component: Test Day |Version: Resolution:| Keywords: Blocked B

Re: Another Fedora 18 Alpha story

2012-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 17, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Doubt it, we dropped the GPT experiment. 18, like 17, uses MS-DOS labels > in most cases, it'll only use GPT for EFI installs or disks of 3TB+ (or > whatever the line is, I forget - really freaking huge disks.) 2.2TB or 2TiB. Since drive manu

Re: F18 yum update bricks X - workaround

2012-09-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 22:52:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 22:31 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > No, it missed. The workaround of taking 'rhgb' out of the boot > parameters was considered enough for Alpha. I've written the issue up on > common bugs. Sor

Re: livecd-tools-17.15-1.fc17 needs testing

2012-09-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> Tested, It works with both UEFI and non UEFI Thanks. Oh, by the way, the F16 package would love to get some testing too: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-16.16-1.fc16 Thanks everyone. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedorapro

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 18 Alpha!!

2012-09-18 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" Alpha release is plumping up! This release offers a preview of some of the best free and open source technology currently under development. Model a glimpse of the future: http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease Alread

Re: vesa driver is forced through grub instead of xorg.conf

2012-09-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> It should in fact do both. The fact that it doesn't is a bug. > 'nomodeset' will have the effect of forcing the use of vesa in the > case > of *most* drivers, these days, since they have no UMS code any more. > But > it's really more of a lucky side-effect, and it's not 100%; for > drivers > whic

Re: livecd-tools-17.15-1.fc17 needs testing

2012-09-18 Thread Akshay Vyas
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Kamil Paral wrote: > Before we officially release F18 Alpha, we need this pushed to stable updates: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-17.15-1.fc17 > > You don't have to have a UEFI machine to test this, smoke testing is OK too. > Just >pleas

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD

2012-09-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> > Do we need any _name_ at all? > > The email announcement can just say "F18 Alpha RC3 has passed all > > testing and will be released as F18 Alpha". > > And the schedule can just say "Alpha Availability". > > It's more state of release candidate compose than name - but of > course, > I think we

yum update of F18 showing a strange error...

2012-09-18 Thread Kevin Martin
While doing a yum update of F18 this morning I encountered the below error. Any information as to what/why this is would be appreciated. Running Transaction Updating : tzdata-2012f-1.fc18.noarch 1/40 Upda

livecd-tools-17.15-1.fc17 needs testing

2012-09-18 Thread Kamil Paral
Before we officially release F18 Alpha, we need this pushed to stable updates: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-17.15-1.fc17 You don't have to have a UEFI machine to test this, smoke testing is OK too. Just please try whether you can create a bootable USB stick from an ISO an

Re: Better educating about what Alpha, Beta, Release means

2012-09-18 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On 09/15/2012 07:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On 2012-09-15 10:47, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I am seeing a LOT of confusion about what Alpha, Beta and Release levels. Several people saw the world GOLD and thought that it meant this was the final release.. other people saw Alpha Release Candid

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD

2012-09-18 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On 09/18/2012 02:07 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 09/18/2012 08:45 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: Do we need any_name_ at all? The email announcement can just say "F18 Alpha RC3 has passed all testing and will be released as F18 Alpha". And the schedule can just say "Alpha Availability". My

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On 18/09/12 03:38, Bill Nottingham wrote: If the user can't make a choice, they should be using a live image, IMO; the entire point of the DVD install has always been that it provided a choice of things for the user to install. For the end user, those that know, will know what to do. Those who

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-18 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/18/2012 02:38 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: If the user can't make a choice, they should be using a live image, IMO; the entire point of the DVD install has always been that it provided a choice of things for the user to install. Instead of the prior DVD, which offered a variety of co-dependen

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-18 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/18/2012 06:01 AM, drago01 wrote: Stop trolling please. I should rather say that you should stop trolling JBG -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-18 Thread drago01
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: >> Sure but what's wrong with providing a default choice? It does not >> conflict with the goal of providing a choice. >> The user is still free to uncheck the checkbox if he really knows >> what >> he is doing. > > I agree. There would be no do

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD

2012-09-18 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/18/2012 08:45 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: Do we need any_name_ at all? The email announcement can just say "F18 Alpha RC3 has passed all testing and will be released as F18 Alpha". And the schedule can just say "Alpha Availability". My bikeshed color is no color at all. Agreed "Alpha" "Bet

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD

2012-09-18 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > > For Alpha, I used GOLD as used in the past but I'm open to a new > > wording. I like "Public Alpha"/"Public Beta" as suggested in the > > thread. > > I talked to a few people around and they use it. > > > > Public Alpha = latest RC compose used for redistribution/m

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD

2012-09-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> For Alpha, I used GOLD as used in the past but I'm open to a new > wording. I like "Public Alpha"/"Public Beta" as suggested in the > thread. > I talked to a few people around and they use it. > > Public Alpha = latest RC compose used for redistribution/mirroring > Public Alpha Availability = th

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> > 'The installer must be able to install each of the release blocking > > desktops, as well as the minimal package set, for each supported > > installation method (DVD, live, netinst, PXE, ...)' > > > > Comments please. > > I'm fine with that except I'd just drop the "(DVD, live, netinst, > PXE

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> Sure but what's wrong with providing a default choice? It does not > conflict with the goal of providing a choice. > The user is still free to uncheck the checkbox if he really knows > what > he is doing. I agree. There would be no downside to having GNOME Desktop selected by default, just a fe

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD

2012-09-18 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 17:07 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > At the F18 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting that just occurred, the Fedora 18 > > Alpha release was declared GOLD. F18 Alpha will be released > > Tuesday, > > September 18, 2012. > > It's been suggested that we shou

Re: [criteria update] Update of uncategorized package groups criterion

2012-09-18 Thread Petr Schindler
On Út, 2012-09-11 at 14:59 +0200, Petr Schindler wrote: > On Čt, 2012-09-06 at 10:08 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On 2012-09-06 6:54, Kamil Paral wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> we should amend the beta criterion: > > >> > > >> 'At the package installation stage, the install should show no > >

Re: Anaconda exception handling testing

2012-09-18 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 10:47 -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:36:21 +0200 > Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > > > > > The underlaying code raises an exception in a separate thread and > > with a stack containing non-ascii characters (worst case scenario > > designed from the bugs in ex