On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 22:45:28 -0300
Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Stephen John Smoogen
> wrote:
>
> > Hey I have an idea.. since you are so good at designing stuff.. what
> > do you want it to look like versus tearing apart some other persons
> > work.
> >
>
> perhaps
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Hey I have an idea.. since you are so good at designing stuff.. what
> do you want it to look like versus tearing apart some other persons
> work.
>
perhaps if developers in their ivory towers consulted with the actual USERS
and gave
On 1 December 2012 14:15, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 1:10 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Well the point seems to be that the partitioning screen isn't really
>> obvious to him .. tbh it is kind of awkward, but it is to late to fix
>> that for F18.
>
> This is why I've stopped all co
No need to comment. Just want to pass on experience to those up the
ladder.
1. Stupid 20-minute pause (waiting for a timeout?) before the
installation got underway.
2. My Intel ipw2200 wireless simply works! One configuration at
install time and it works for every boot. Wow!
3. I wasn't sure
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> # yum remove parted
> ...
> Remove 1 Package (+110 Dependent packages)
> ...
> O_O
>
> e.g.
> gwenview
> kamera
> kcalc
> kde-print-manager
> kdm
> kmix
> kwallet
> kwrite
> ksnapshot
> okular
According to repoquery:
Most of Kde seems to be t
Wow! This is a really neat tutorial. The commentary is excellent and the
screen shots are high quality. I love how my mouse arrow becomes large
and thick, making it easy to see, and how it changes to a pointing
finger when links are moused over.
Bob
On 12/1/12 6:08 PM, Thomas Gilliard wrote
Felix Miata wrote:
> # yum remove parted
> ...
> Remove 1 Package (+110 Dependent packages)
> ...
> O_O
>
> e.g.
> gwenview
> kamera
> kcalc
> kde-print-manager
> kdm
> kmix
> kwallet
> kwrite
> ksnapshot
> okular
In particular,
$ rpm -e parted
error: Failed dependencies:
...
libparted
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:27:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> # yum remove parted
> ...
> Remove 1 Package (+110 Dependent packages)
> ...
> O_O
>
> e.g.
> gwenview
> kamera
> kcalc
> kde-print-manager
> kdm
> kmix
> kwallet
> kwrite
> ksnapshot
> okular
Well, that doesn't show the direct dependenci
# yum remove parted
...
Remove 1 Package (+110 Dependent packages)
...
O_O
e.g.
gwenview
kamera
kcalc
kde-print-manager
kdm
kmix
kwallet
kwrite
ksnapshot
okular
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On 12/01/2012 02:46 PM, test-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
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Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:47:43 -0700
From: Stephen John Smoogen
To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
Subject: Re: Ren
On Dec 1, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
> Felix Miata wrote:
>
>> Is there any other UI on the planet where
>> where a done or OK button is at the upper left?
>
> I guess you're not a KDE user ;-)
>
> SystemSettings has a button with a back arrow, which effectively has
> the same fu
Iagree with Tom on this point. I too have experience installing Linux
distros. The screen shot that Tom displays is in fact a disaster of
design. It does not help the user set up mount points. In fact, it
entirely misses the point...pun intended. I work in IT and I wouldn't
want the other techs
On 2012-12-01 14:51 (GMT-0700) Peter Gueckel composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
Is there any other UI on the planet where where a done or OK button is at the
upper left?
I guess you're not a KDE user ;-)
I'm a KDE-only user!
SystemSettings has a button with a back arrow, which effectively h
On Dec 1, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T430 with EFI enabled and Fedora 17 installed. I
> tried to use FedUp to upgrade it to Fedora 18. The first problem was that the
> system for some reason had both grub-efi and grub2 installed, so Fed
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, drago01 wrote:
> Pretty good summary why I think this screen is just a mess from an UI pov.
Agree it´s a disaster. And if you´re a coder and you can´t take negative
feedback from users, "please, go do something else". *to paraphrase a
poster higher in this thread
Felix Miata wrote:
> Is there any other UI on the planet where
> where a done or OK button is at the upper left?
I guess you're not a KDE user ;-)
SystemSettings has a button with a back arrow, which effectively has
the same function as the 'done' button -- in the upper left corner!
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On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 1:10 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Well the point seems to be that the partitioning screen isn't really
>> obvious to him .. tbh it is kind of awkward, but it is to late to fix
>> that for F18.
>
> This is why I've stopped
On Dec 1, 2012, at 1:10 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>
> Well the point seems to be that the partitioning screen isn't really
> obvious to him .. tbh it is kind of awkward, but it is to late to fix
> that for F18.
This is why I've stopped all constructive or destructive criticism of anaconda.
I find
On 1 December 2012 13:51, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2012-12-01 17:16 (GMT-0700) Stephen John Smoogen composed:
>
>> if Tom or others would like to get the dev's attention, here is a way to
>> do so...
>
>
> You really think Joe Casual Tester suffering through that mutation would
> remember so many d
On 2012-12-01 17:16 (GMT-0700) Stephen John Smoogen composed:
if Tom or others would like to get the dev's attention, here is a way to do
so...
You really think Joe Casual Tester suffering through that mutation would
remember so many details, or even care to spend so much time to be
constru
On 1 December 2012 13:04, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2012-12-01 12:47 (GMT-0700) Stephen John Smoogen composed:
>
>> Tom Horsley wrote:
>
>
>>> In many many years of installing all kinds of linux distros,
>>> I have never encountered a more baffling and cryptic screen
>>> than the one I ran into when
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 1 December 2012 12:31, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> In many many years of installing all kinds of linux distros,
>> I have never encountered a more baffling and cryptic screen
>> than the one I ran into when I made the attempt to install
>
On 2012-12-01 12:47 (GMT-0700) Stephen John Smoogen composed:
Tom Horsley wrote:
In many many years of installing all kinds of linux distros,
I have never encountered a more baffling and cryptic screen
than the one I ran into when I made the attempt to install
Fedora 18 Beta from the DVD imag
On 1 December 2012 12:31, Tom Horsley wrote:
> In many many years of installing all kinds of linux distros,
> I have never encountered a more baffling and cryptic screen
> than the one I ran into when I made the attempt to install
> Fedora 18 Beta from the DVD image:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.co
In many many years of installing all kinds of linux distros,
I have never encountered a more baffling and cryptic screen
than the one I ran into when I made the attempt to install
Fedora 18 Beta from the DVD image:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882542
This has got to be the result o
Hi all,
I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T430 with EFI enabled and Fedora 17 installed.
I tried to use FedUp to upgrade it to Fedora 18. The first problem was
that the system for some reason had both grub-efi and grub2 installed,
so FedUp's grubby call failed. I fixed that by removing the grub2 packag
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 11:14:30AM -0700, Peter Gueckel wrote:
> There are cases where you are the reporter, but do not wish to be
> an active participant, follow all of the discussion, etc.
> There appears to be no way to opt out. Or is there?
Generally it's assumed that the reporter will be int
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Just a heads-up - several reporters (including me) have noticed that
> they can't access 'storage' drives in their systems (disks mounted at
> non-system locations - mine's at /media/Sea500 - to contain
> miscellaneous data) after updating
Frank Murphy wrote:
> You can't report without having a bz account
I know. I have one.
> you can modify what mails you receive.
> I think you need to go here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
Those are global settings.
There are cases where you are the reporter, but do not
Just a heads-up - several reporters (including me) have noticed that
they can't access 'storage' drives in their systems (disks mounted at
non-system locations - mine's at /media/Sea500 - to contain
miscellaneous data) after updating to selinux-policy-3.11.1-57. -58 does
not fix this problem. If yo
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 09:51:44 -0700
Peter Gueckel wrote:
> Sometimes someone says: "You should report xxx to bugzilla."
>
> If you do, you end up getting emails and may be contacted and are
> unable to get yourself off the list, because you reported it.
>
> How can one report something without
Sometimes someone says: "You should report xxx to bugzilla."
If you do, you end up getting emails and may be contacted and are
unable to get yourself off the list, because you reported it.
How can one report something without being on the list?
PS: Obviously, I want to receive correspondence an
--- Em sáb, 1/12/12, Frank Murphy escreveu:
> De: Frank Murphy
> Assunto: Re: F18 Lightdm D-Bus
> Para: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Data: Sábado, 1 de Dezembro de 2012, 13:19
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 06:59:54 -0800
> (PST)
> Sergio
> wrote:
>
> > If you have issues with lightdm then the best
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 06:59:54 -0800 (PST)
Sergio wrote:
> If you have issues with lightdm then the best thing is to look at
> its logs, I think.
Had a quick look at the logs.
x-0.log empty
lightdm-greeter.old
words like cannot scale pixel buff?
lightdm.log, complains about greeter starting and s
--- Em sáb, 1/12/12, Frank Murphy escreveu:
> De: Frank Murphy
> Assunto: Re: F18 Lightdm D-Bus
> Para: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Data: Sábado, 1 de Dezembro de 2012, 12:06
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:01:09 +
> Frank Murphy
> wrote:
>
> > > To use the test mode you have edit
> /etc/pam.
On 2012-12-30 22:37 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed:
On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 23:21 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
Next, installation destination: it shows my HD with model number. I click it,
but nothing apparent happens. Oooo, down at the botton below a desert
of whitespace, in mousetyp
In the package set that makes my machine non-bootable, there are
packages from the selinux-policy-3.11.1-57.fc18 test update.
Avoid it unless you run in permissive mode.
It has been replaced already in bodhi (which isn't nice as one cannot find
the entry for the bad package anymore), but it is st
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:01:09 +
Frank Murphy wrote:
> > To use the test mode you have edit /etc/pam.d/lightdm and comment
> > sessionrequiredpam_loginuid.so
> >
>
> Done, just getting a black screen.
>
> startx from level 3 works fine.
>
Spoke too fast
back with the d-bus no connec
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 11:54:05 -0200
Sergio wrote:
>
> To use the test mode you have edit /etc/pam.d/lightdm and comment
> sessionrequiredpam_loginuid.so
>
Done, just getting a black screen.
startx from level 3 works fine.
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On 12/01/2012 11:43 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
Used fedup F17 > F18. on a second vm
Only lightdm seems to have a problem.
Keeps appearing and disappearing.
Booted to telinit 3
logged in as user
# lightdm --test-mode
Failed to get D-Bus Connection.
all .rpmsave, .rpmnew have been sorted as necess
Used fedup F17 > F18. on a second vm
Only lightdm seems to have a problem.
Keeps appearing and disappearing.
Booted to telinit 3
logged in as user
# lightdm --test-mode
Failed to get D-Bus Connection.
all .rpmsave, .rpmnew have been sorted as necessary.
full relabel has taken place.
How to get
Compose started at Sat Dec 1 09:15:22 UTC 2012
Broken deps for x86_64
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[gcc-python-plugin]
gcc-python2-debug-plugin-0.9-6.fc18.x86_64 requires gcc = 0:4.7.2-3.fc18
gcc-python2-plugin-0.9-6.fc18.x86_64 requires gcc = 0:4.7.2
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:21:18 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> Getting to the initial GUI seemed to take forever. Once there, I started at
> what seemed to be the beginning, upper left of the block of stuff in the
> middle, expecting to have to tell Anaconda the PC clock is set local. Once in
> time
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:15:47 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 23:32 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Mixed results.
> >
> > Booting from USB stick crashed the installer at the first mouse-click on
> > its main screen with another traceback due to umount /mnt/sysimage being
Back with a fresh F18-Beta installatiom from USB stick and completing
a few configuration steps myself, I was brave enough to run "yum update"
to install a whopping 245 MB (?) of updates, probably all test updates.
Machine didn't like to reboot afterwards, Dracut opened a shell because
of a problem
On 2012-11-30 23:55 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed:
On Sat, 2012-12-01 at 02:02 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
It's just as bad as F17's: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701190
The problem is the default size Anaconda fonts for the display's native
resolution are too small, and
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing:
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