Fedora 17 updates-testing report

2013-07-22 Thread updates
The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing: Age URL 382 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10269/revelation-0.4.14-1.fc17 194 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0455/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc17 122 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/up

Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-07-22 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing: Age URL 195 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0416/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc18 128 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3935/puppet-3.1.1-1.fc18 122 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 15:47 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > Aside from the people problems, perhaps bugzilla could be changed so > that certain status paths preclude closing the bug? > > In my personal experience, I choose to not close *any* bug opened by a > customer - it's up to them to decide if the

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:26:43 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > The maintainer in question has been active on bugzilla (as noted > previously, he closed two other bugs of mine with INSUFFICIENT_DATA) > /after/ I posted the reproduction steps, so it seems clear that were he > planning on reopening

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 07/22/2013 03:47 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: Perhaps in this case, any state that implies "waiting on reporter" would stop anyone else from closing the bug, but let the system time it out and auto-close it if the reporter ignores it? This is exactly how /needinfo/, which we already have, is suppose

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread DJ Delorie
Aside from the people problems, perhaps bugzilla could be changed so that certain status paths preclude closing the bug? In my personal experience, I choose to not close *any* bug opened by a customer - it's up to them to decide if the issue has been resolved to their satisfaction. Instead, I pu

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > On 07/22/2013 12:44 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > I'd suggest either the person's sponsor or > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group > > How does one find out someone's sponsor? > > I looked at the Wiki page for the CWG, and

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > What can be done about a package maintainer with, for lack of a better > term, an ongoing attitude problem? > > Here are some examples of interactions I've had with this individual. I am > trying to be circumspect because I'm not trying

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 07/22/2013 03:21 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Here it's mandatory to examine how long has been waited between posting the steps and deciding that the ticket won't be reopened. The maintainer in question has been active on bugzilla (as noted previously, he closed two other bugs of mine with INS

What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jonathan Kamens
What can be done about a package maintainer with, for lack of a better term, an ongoing attitude problem? Here are some examples of interactions I've had with this individual. I am trying to be circumspect because I'm not trying to engage in public shaming, but I really need some advice... T

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:08:06 -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > > I have little interest in wasting my time engaging in pointless "mediation" > > that is just going to boil down to he-said, she-said, > > If mediation is not something you're

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 07/22/2013 03:05 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: It seems to me like you don't know how to report bugs. Bug reports should include STEPS TO REPRODUCE, ALWAYS, it is not "OPTIONAL". First of all, I have, in fact, included reproduction steps in all of the bugs we're discussing here. I am dissatisfie

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > I have little interest in wasting my time engaging in pointless "mediation" > that is just going to boil down to he-said, she-said, If mediation is not something you're interested in, because your time is too valuable (but apparently, the

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > > The maintainer closed an abrt crash report about a package with > INSUFFICIENT_DATA. He didn't actually ask the reporter of the issue for any > additional information before closing it. I asked why in the bug, and he > responded, "No ste

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 08:55:02PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/986938 > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/986935 This does seem like a horrible abuse of the "insufficient data" close reason. On the other hand, I guess it's slightly better than completely ignoring

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:30:38 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > Frankly, the particular package that I've been attempting to report bugs > about (and, by the way, while this thread was ongoing, the maintainer > closed yet another bug report of main with INSUFFICIENT_DATA without > comment, despite

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 07/22/2013 12:58 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: Look them up in the account system. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/packager and filter it or go through the list. Thank you. JK> I looked at the Wiki page for the CWG, and it doesn't have any JK> enforcement powers. Wh

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JK" == Jonathan Kamens writes: JK> How does one find out someone's sponsor? Look them up in the account system. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/packager and filter it or go through the list. JK> I looked at the Wiki page for the CWG, and it doesn't have any JK> enf

Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

2013-07-22 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 07/22/2013 12:44 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: I'd suggest either the person's sponsor or https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group How does one find out someone's sponsor? I looked at the Wiki page for the CWG, and it doesn't have any enforcement powers. "Specific anti-duties of the C

Re: [Fedora QA] #393: Revise release criteria for ARM as primary arch

2013-07-22 Thread Fedora QA
#393: Revise release criteria for ARM as primary arch ---+--- Reporter: adamwill | Owner: adamwill Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 20 Component: Release criteri

Re: fedup...--instrepo?

2013-07-22 Thread Kamil Paral
> Error: can't get boot images. > The installation repo isn't available. > You need to specify one with --instrepo. Richard, if you could report a bug against fedup, that would be great. The error message should be fixed (instead of telling you to use --instrepo, it should tell you what the prob